Thursday, 8 December 2011

Poll: Should Rafiq Hayat Go? And a Quick Message!

Salaam!

There's a new poll up.. which you should be able to see just to the right of this post. If you're viewing the blog from a mobile device/iPhone etc.. you may need to select 'View web version' at the bottom of the page before you can see it.

So.. should raf stay or should he go? Please make every effort to vote especially all Ahmadis, ex-Ahmadis and closet muslims.. as raf keeps an eye on this blog very closely this is your chance to let your opinion be known. So be honest. If you don't want him as ameer anymore then just say!

P.S. I've managed to answer a few emails. Anyone waiting for a reply please check your account. Spoon you have finally been replied to! Will get through as many of the remaining emails as I can over the next few weeks, insha'Allah.

Thanks for your patience.

72 comments:

  1. Lol obviously rafs family and little minions will be selecting 'NO'. Please do not vote more than once... That's especially to those voting in his favour.. Let it be a true reflection (its good for him to know). Don't cheat the poll... Same goes for those voting against him. Play fair. Remmember we don't want him to go yett anyways, but its a good opportunity to let your feelings be known! Also open to all Muslims..make a call based on what you have read/think of the cult.

    :)

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  2. *touch screen presses same keys twice. Crrap iPhone.

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  3. He will not leave till he is dragged away forcefully

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  4. on what grounds should he go? because you have a personal grudge? boring.

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  5. The man seems desperate he's clinging on to the ameer post for dear life. It's pathetic really, I mean look at the state of the guy he's got plenty of deputies that can take over from him.

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  6. Our man Rafiq is desperately trying to hold on to his leadership. He would rather drop dead than leave the Ameer post. The Khalifa is so weak and won't let Rafiq go. It's pathetic really.

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  7. Even if Rafique Hayat was a womanising, corrupt, alchi responsible for stealing jamaat money. Huzoor would still keep him as the Ameer.

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  8. Zero confidence + zero respect = Rafiq Hayat

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  9. Don't get rid of Raf otherwise Findings might disappear too. Then we won't know what's really going on in the jamaat.

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  10. Findings keep exposing Rafiq Hayats ugly two faced policies, they've been going on for far too long.

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  11. Since Raf is reading this along with his co workers, let me say a few of things directly.
    You are a nasty, vindictive, cruel and disingenuous man who has abused his position. You've surrounded yourself with people who are your Kenyan friends just to protect you. You lack religious knowledge, integrity and principles and you stand up in front of us and our families and lecture us. You Hypocrite.
    You are bringing the jamaat and the Khalifa in to disrepute yet you shamelessly continue.
    You are a sick sick sick man in more ways than one and I for one pray that God Almighty punishes you for all to see for all the malicious things you have done.
    You have hoodwinked the Khalifa and have actually turned him to a prize plum and a laughing stock too.

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  12. He's one BIG MUNAFIQ

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  13. Whose harbouring a personal grudge? It seems Raf has pee'd off a lot of people! Also, I'll have you know that if Raf goes..so does this site! Remember everything I have is based on his administration! If he goes, what use is this info? So really and truly, it doesn't work in my favour if he goes. He goes, then so does my position. Do you get my drift?? Lol.

    I just want to get an idea of how many people actually want him as their ameer. And its good for him to see for himself...

    By the way his naibs are no better. If they are promoted when he leaves...oh boy :P

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  14. Apparently Shabeer Bhatti has his eye on the post aswell as a little Lord. mmm interesting.

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  15. WE want him to stay as Amir. Why should he go? He'll get well soon especially with Huzoor's prayers. Huzoor loves him and can't make decisions without his advice.
    Our father who art in favour of thy Khalifa will not be removed no matter what Findings says,does or regardless of any documents she shows on this pathetic blog.
    Mum says if he goes what will we do and nobody will look at us twice and consider us the Amir's kids. We'll be just like everybody else - normal. We don't want to loose our superior status. She's busy visiting Khaala Saboohi regularly to make sure this never happens.
    Please Huzoor we beg you don't listen to what everyone else is saying about our dad and get rid of Daddy as the Amir.

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  16. the humour on this blog is totally dry. above comments prove this.

    he may have 'pee'd off a lot of people', but you are included in that group. so what did you get told off for? it's a shame you can't say as this will obviously give away your identity.

    so if he goes, this will be the end of this blog? all righty then! you will only move onto the next. who know's it could even be your mamu next in line.

    is this stil a lone battle?

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  17. What Mamu would that be then? Does he have a name :P

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  18. Anonymous wrote:
    ''You are a sick sick sick man in more ways than one and I for one pray that God Almighty punishes you for all to see for all the malicious things you have done.
    You have hoodwinked the Khalifa and have actually turned him to a prize plum and a laughing stock too.

    9 December 2011 12:45 ''

    AMEEN, MAY ALLAH show the world such leaders real face and have curse on them. These leaders are shame to Islam and Quran.

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  19. FINDINGS YOU ARE ROOKIE OF THE YEAR 2011!

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  20. Come on someone defend Raf - doesn't he have any loyal mates/relatives/co workers out there. Stick up for him at least and let the world know all this is wrong.
    Apparently people are being nice to his face and having a good ole laugh behind his back.

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  21. So Findings.... You admit that this site is just to slander Rafiq Hayat and his administration. And here I was thinking its purpose was to explore Islamic beliefs and find the siraat al mustaqeem. Your credibility is going down day by day. You seriously need to get some therapy for whatever issues you have.

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  22. Your sick of me are you? Here.. take this bucket and let it all out. LOL.

    Go on. Grass me up I DOUBLE DARE YOU! Plane aka Pilot Boy

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  23. Go on. Scram. WOOF WOOF. Lol.

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  24. Who are the comments in posts 20:19 and 20:21 for? You sound like you're losing the plot.

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  25. The poster RE: 'plane'. Thanks for being so considerate of my mental health. Your sooo sweet xxxxx but the plot is very much intact. Actually, its thickening by the day.

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  26. LOOL hands up!! I lost the plot! Shame! The person commented in the previouss thread, and I replied in thiss one. Lol. Its the end of the working week. Tired.com

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  27. Whether RAF goes or not findings has given mouth to many sheeps goats ahmadis to speak up not a common place in jamaat at at all many have been made victims of cruelaity because they tried to say something goid job done stay in the mission findings well done i may not agree with you as a whole but yiu gave mouth to innocent deaf dum blind ahmadis

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  28. @ dear findings my question remains unanswered

    Are He SHE or IT

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  29. Rafiq is your amir and he has no credibility why are you so concerned with Findings cred.
    Its not Findings that needs therapy its your Raf.
    Go on ask Raf for yourself about it, see what he tells u.

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  30. Findings you should not go, it's the only place where we non-ahmadi ahmadis can voice our concerns. Whether Rafiq goes or not and no doubt another one of his friends will come ameer and the stories go on and on but you gave us a platform where we can share issures within the jamaat whether is good or bad.

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  31. Do you know KK has a black list of people he tells presidents whom to treat what who should not attend important meetings ayaz imam rafiq imam rashed aslam javed nisar butt mashiqbal all are his victims he caused death of aftab khan he made false allegations agsinst him he was anxious for becoming ameer since 1992

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  32. Aftab Khan was a good pious person.

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  33. True but he wasnt a Kenyan

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  34. Anonymous said...
    Do you know KK has a black list of people he tells presidents whom to treat what who should not attend important meetings ayaz imam rafiq imam rashed aslam javed nisar butt mashiqbal all are his victims he caused death of aftab khan he made false allegations agsinst him he was anxious for becoming ameer since 1992 @ 22:32

    What did he to do them? Raf is a disgrace, and has brought shame on Ahmadiyyat. Insha'allah God won't be forgiving.

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  35. Where is he hiding these days? At home at office or in Hospital ?

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  36. @ anon 22:32 9 December 2011

    You seem to understand the malicious nature of KK aka Raf well. Can you give us little more info on how he has treated these persons. Thanks

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  37. K4 had some intelligence and never trusted Raf as could see his true nature. Raf only became aamir during in the latter days of K4's illness after spreading lies about the previous amir.
    Mirza Masroor on the otherhand has given Raf free reign to do as he pleases. MM seems deaf and blind when it comes to Raf.

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  38. Who will have the Akhraj Az Jumaat first; Findings or her enemy?

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  39. Raf, look at how many people 'love'you!
    is being amir worth it?

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  40. An other job for Finding!!!!!
    My plea to you, to get rid of Rafiq Murdood munafiq, you need to see the back hand relations with Mirza Masroor's private secretary Munir Javed. He is the senior most from all this full of filth Kenyan bunch.

    This bunch is cutting off the Anjumn in Rabwah thru Munir Javed. What are the assests of Munir Javed??? one could guess
    Well wisher!!!

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  41. you are right RAF Munira has introduced lahori model in jamaat now for long ask Ramta Haji Tunda about Munira assets

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  42. Ansari_mowghlis_Uncle10 December 2011 at 14:52

    @anon 9 Dec 23:44

    R O F L M A O

    That was said with real passion!!!

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  43. During the time of munir javed "munira" and dirty words and filthy language he used in letters adressing ahmadis on behalf of khalifas has damaged the jamaat more than any benefit he used typical dirty language of ramta tunda haji insurance benefit claim chore murderer escaped from pakistan do you know this ask ch azam

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  44. Ask GS how was his bank job and deposits issue of poor account holders he ran tk uk with???

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  45. Can GS stand before mirror and ask himself is he a real or fake among unholy team of RAF

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  46. I have voted no,because he had made a hole in the boat,now let him sink with the boat,Don't let him go please.This story should end for ever.

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  47. Who is GS? please specify the name

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  48. On previous blog - sunday scandal session 11 it says Rafiq Hayat's PA (Mirza Hafiz)son is in jail for armed robbery and serving a sentence. Is this the calibre of the people serving working with Rafiq Hayat?
    Doesn't Naib Amir and Tarbiyyat Secretary - Shabbir Bhatti want to look into this matter of one of Raf's staff member instead of spying on kids.

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  49. Cult Girl - do you think the Nizaam accept they make or made any mistake? NEVER in a month of Sundays.

    Think about it - Raf's appointed (a certain NK) who accepted guilt and paid back damages for financial fraud. This guys got access to multi million pound budgets with the numerous positions Raf has backed and appointed him with.
    Then you've got Shabbir Bhatti carrying out ILLEGAL activities spying on Kids.
    Then you've one of his PA's who son has been convicted of armed robbery.
    This is tip of the iceberg.
    Will they admit to any mistakes and remove this man who's in charge of these decisions. NEVER EVER.

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  50. If you dont know GS then you know nothing G general S secretary to RAF

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  51. you are right, these Office holders, and contractors of Nizam-e-Jamat hide there own mistakes. Similarly, khadhan never expell own family(except few rare examples).

    So this nizam is for common AHMEDI, he is one who got expelled, pay chanda, ask for appology, the top posts hide their dark faces behind their post.
    This is nizam, do one think it is from ALLAH?

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  52. 12 December 2011 07:38 & 12 December 2011 13:34

    Do you have any more info on "Rafiq Hayat's PA (Mirza Hafiz)son is in jail for armed robbery and serving a sentence"

    Any links to news paper articles e.t.c....tis would be very useful.

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  53. Mansoor Shah, another Naib Amir - his son has also been to prison.

    Hayat has picked his Naib's very carefully. Men that could not replace him because of the skeletons in their own cupboard.

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  54. So why do Ahmadis always say just how corrupt the Muslim mullahs and people are when they are themselves the biggest fraud and corrupted people in the world and worse are those who defend the very same people who commit such injustice within the jamaat, you know who you are?!?

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  55. @ anon 23.30 ask any one in the dafter, they will be able to confirm this.
    Well said anon at 13.12, Hayat has surrounded himself with such people to protect himself.

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  56. why that naib amir son went to prison? on rape?

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  57. When is Mirza Hafiz Akhraj announcement coming? Come on, the rules should be equal for all, why this hypocracy?

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  58. Please write names of sons of the PA and Naib Amir, its high time for name and shame like its done for others.

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  59. please leave my family alonex

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  60. No one is to be left alone, when illegal ex communicate announcements are done, so the names of these 2 kids who are druggies, robbers should be mentioned. Tit for Tat. !!!!

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  61. So somebody somewhere has been hurt that their family members name have been mentioned on some "juma alarm" (whatever you call it?! ) and now through their hurt and anger they are going to publish the names of the children of Naibs. Then the children of Naibs are going to get hurt and want to do something to humiliate you!?! Where and when does it end?! (cue montagues versers capulates - or music from the Apprentice as it's commonly known!!)

    I know fully well that the Jamaat are hurting people who they claim have "gone astray" and they think they are doing this honorable thing for everyone's own good?! And you are doing this for the Jamaat's own good. But revenge will only make it worse! Why don't you all go and have a meeting with Hazoor and tell him what the reasons are and that you don't like people's names being read out for the purposes of "naming and shaming" and you want Rafiq Hayat to go. Naming and shaming tactics are wrong and cause damage to individuals . Coming on a blog to do this is pretty immature. Go to plan B..... Just a suggestion

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  62. Raf this song by the Clash dedicated to you
    "should I stay or should I go!"

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  63. He should not go nor stay but perish

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  64. Go KK Go, Go Go KK Go

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  65. Even if Rafiq Hayat was found to be taking jamaat funds and using them for himself he would still not be removed as the amir. Even if his naib amir friends were doing the same they would not be removed either.
    ASK the question WHY??

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  66. He will not go someond will throw shoes on him in jalsa salan

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  67. People are already throwing eggs and shoes on them by way of exposing their rubbish good good good job by findings but she has caused breach to nizam e hayat nizan e bhatti nizam e waqqas nizam e mashiqbal nizam e tunda ramta nizam e munira pheka nizam e bashira nizam e major nizam e luqman
    happy xmas and new year to all

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  68. Go RAF go, go RAF go

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  69. Be careful RAF the eggs and shoes you will be thrown at in your meetings

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