Friday, 13 January 2012

Where Are Your Converts At?

Salaam,

I came across this very interesting video on Youtube. It's a short interview with Lauren Booth, the sister of Cherie Blair. She reverted to Islam in 2010 and gives some very insightful thoughts on what drew her to Islam. Have a watch:





This video also got me thinking. Where are the prominent Ahmadi converts? I mean I can't think of ANY.. not even a single one. Which begs the question.. why aren't more people drawn to Ahmadiyyat? Ahmadis harp on about how they're the fastest growing, most dynamic, blah, blah religious group ever.. yet what do they have to show for it? They claim fake followers in the hundreds of millions, conveniently in places like Africa, where the common Ahmadi can't verify for themselves.

Surely if this was Allah's Jamaat and Mirza was a 'Messiah', Allah would be assisting you in world domination, just like He assisted Islam. What's wrong here? Apply a little logic Ahmadis.. it won't hurt! We know conversions aren't happening in the UK, thanks to recent leaks, so just why is Ahmadiyyat so lacking in attracting people to the 'True Islam'? And yes.. that's a rhetorical question.

36 comments:

  1. The only baits you get are those who want to get married to their girlfriends/boyfriends and as soon as they are married then off they go to the Western life as they know it, for them becoming ahmadis is to save face for the parents and for them not being kicked out of the jamaat.
    Come on ahmadis you know it's the truth, too many of these I have attended and then no sign of these converts.

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    1. well said, spot on.
      The other baits you have forget to mention, were thru Humanity First's Chairman Ahmed Yahyah in Bosnia and Germany.
      Those Khuddams who raised voices, were expelled by Khadan

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  2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chE443k2J-U&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL72E03D86ABEF0D1F

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  3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqVXvEF_IZc&feature=BFa&list=PL72E03D86ABEF0D1F&lf=results_video

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  4. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmadiyya#Notable_people

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  5. There was a whole list of Notable Ahmadi Muslims in that very decent beautiful blog that you refuse to publish here.

    Stop bickering and start praying. I highly doubt you pray 5 times.

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    1. For God's sake can you not read?? we're asking about British CONVERTS not born Ahmadis. The list you're talking about is irrelevant. Why do you people find it so hard to give a truthful answer.

      Now be a good boy or girl and write a list of British converts in the last 100 years in the UK. I'm sure it won't take too long. (Do not include those who have converted for marriage purposes only and not seen again after their Ahmadi wedding.)

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    2. you idiot why don't you look at the replies given above

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    3. who's the idiot? stooping to name calling usually means you've lost the argument

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    4. That blog is now an official Ahmadiyya blog. Not very suprisingly they blocked some of my post, effectively stifling freedom of speech and preventing a discussion about their prophet. That's the Ahmadiyya cult for you. Remember that next time your leaders advocate freedom of speech in front of politicians. Remember the hypocrisy.

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  6. Jamat need to give total numbers of member in world at Jalsa, rather then giving, total of chanda collection totals.
    Dear Cult also mention how many members expelled, how many left!!!
    What you think?

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    1. I think so too but knowing this cult they will only mention how much chanda has been given and how many new converts are now ahmadi and how much they have been blessed.
      They will never ever say how many people left this cult willingly or the the people they expelled. Wake up ahmadis this is a cult!

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  7. Compare qadiyanis converts with that of real islam, in terms of number -Mizais loose, interms of practising mulsims-Mirzais loose.

    Please open your eyes and hearts qadiyanis

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  8. I remember 10-15 years ago when, if someone accepted Islam, it was a BIG deal. Nowadays, frankly, its a routine scene. Yes, we're happy and exchange contact information, but people convert several times a week. We don't immediately boast about them and have them give testimonials about why they "joined our sect". Ahmadis are very very proud of their converts because they just don't have that many.

    And where are their prominent ones? Major Islamic institutions in the West were founded and/or run by CONVERTS. ISNA was headed by Ingrid Mattson. Zaytuna College was founded by two converts. You don't see that amongst the Pakistani-dominated Ahmadiyya.

    For certain their UK population is exaggerated. That's based on leaked statistics. You are spot on when you say their converts are "conveniently in places like Africa".

    Lots of fishy things going on here.

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  9. 68,000 revert to islam daily
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HggXY4r9mY

    that's what an evangelical christian said

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  10. the christian dude says it at this point

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=4HggXY4r9mY#t=243s

    the video overall proves mirza to be a liar once again

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  11. Ahmadies are more than 200 million all over the world and growing

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    1. there is absolutely zero proof of that! Then why are most faces at your temples paki punjabi faces?

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    2. In 2005 Jammat claimed 200 million
      in 2009 they claimed 80 million


      even that 80 million claim was fake but still what happened to 120 million Ahmadies? died or disappeared?

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  12. What's your problem with Africa? You keep mentioning African Ahmadis are irrelevant beings. That is not right. I am an Ahmadi from Africa, and I am verifying here for you.

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  13. Can you verify how many Ahmadis there are in Africa? I want PROOF! Email me. Contact details above. Bring proof.

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    1. wow, 03:34am?! don't you sleep Findings? or do you have insomnia

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    2. Bring proof we don't exist. You are the one claiming that all the Ahmadis I know do not exist. One document on your website to do with bai'ts in London is not proof.

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    3. Here's your proof:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2VvzUdDM-w
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GM-8MHl0IU
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0qwrXv-3ww
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdiwUiHlj3k

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  14. Findings, please ask them how much chanda comes from Africa, and less than a fraction they will let you know.

    With the emergence of Global Economic turmoil, it is noticable that Masroor have not been to poor countries. After 2008 humliated trip of India, he is only visiting the european and western countries, to bring more money.
    He is not interested to the well being of members in poor areas of world, with his spirtual touch.

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  15. findings wants proof of numbers whereas ahmadis focus on quality, this is a beautiful difference between the believers and the non believers. quality over quantity always.

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    1. Salam,
      Can you throw more light on term, 'Believer' please.

      Just before you quote anything wrongly, may I also ask question to you.
      Q= After doing initiation(Bait) the member has to accept whatever the Khalifa and Jamat said(leave the term Maroof- as what is Maroof in your dictionary is non-sense in civilized world)?

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    2. First of all you do not know who are the believers and non believers, only Allah (swt) knows.
      Secondly, it is not the Muslim world that focus on numbers unlike the quadianis, why every year at jalsa salana or every given moment they boast on numbers of new convert, they keep saying we are growing but the fact is you are not growing unlike the other religions even Christianity converts are doing better than you so they can also claim to be the true religion. The new converts to Islam have been very inspiring and have contributed a lot in the Muslim and non Muslim world, in fact I learnt more from them about Islam than I ever did with this cult.
      Your obsession in numbers are quite embarring really remember the Bosians in Germany ring a bell?

      http://alhafeez.org/rashid/baitfraud.html

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    3. "First of all you do not know who are the believers and non believers, only Allah (swt) knows."

      Makes all your efforts a waste of time then.

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  16. 2.55 am? Really? Don't you sleep? Are you an insomniac???

    LOL.

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  17. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i50fgZZfhCo

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  18. Remember in 2005 Jammat Claimed 200 Milion Ahmadis in world
    but suddenly in 2009 number fell to 80 million :D

    so Jammat fake claims just to make common ahmadis of this Punjabi cult happy

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  19. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2l-rJG7KLg&feature=related

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  20. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eELcT90e_Z8&feature=related

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  21. Well well well little lostings did you really check Lauren Booths conversion. Do you know if she is sunni or shia. The consensus is Shia if correct she is still a kafir according to you so better check your facts lostings before you start touting your high profile conversions. Also have a look at some of her interviews. please check the way she does Purdah because I know you are a stickler about this. It looks decidedly like the "Ahmadi" version you despise so much. I can see her hair below her scary Aaaagh! What nothing to say about her. You are really are a hypocrite to the core.

    oh yes where are your converts I forgot about that one lets just check the UK

    From http://www.brin.ac.uk/news/?tag=kevin-brice
    British Religion in numbers in an article from Kevin Brice an English Revert to Islam who heads up the Muslims in Britain Research Network. I don't know how accurate his figures are so any corrections would be welcome.

    Total Muslim Population in Britain 2422000 as of 2008 I think

    Total revert population 2001 61000

    Total revert population now 100000

    So an increase pf 39000 in 10 or so years approx 1.6% increase

    Interestingly another survey suggests 2/3 women and half of those primary trigger marriage.

    Putting those figures in and taking away the marriage related ones increase would be around 1.07%

    7% were Pakistanis who were very lapse and brought up by lapse parents


    Not exactly coming in droves to Islam given all your active Daeen illilaah

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  22. They love their converts at the top. May not be many converting but those who do, get their bums kissed for the rest of their lives.

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