Sunday, 18 December 2011

The Sunday Scandal Session 12: Shabir Bhatti- Who Do You Think You Are?

Click To Enlarge. Courtesy of mirzabiz.com
Salaam!
 
Sorry for the delay but I am now on my travels, so please be advised that there will be an inevitable delay in posts going up. This is pretty basic stuff here today, but it is all you guys are getting for the time being! Go on ardent devotees of Mirza Ghulam Qadiani, have a moan, but I am too busy sunning it up to listen or even care for that matter! Not like on any other given day you would be able to read these sort of documents, unless you are Raf's daughter (ooooops).
 
Below you will find 6 brief reports on 6 young Ahmadi men, written by Shirjeel Tahir, the then Qaid of the Hounslow region. This formed a part of an on going and intrusive investigation into a group of about 15 Ahmadi boys, whom the Jamaat accused of being in a ‘gang’ called the ‘The Paki Mafia’. These reports were conducted back in 2008, when the ‘gang’ first came to light, and under the authority of Dr Shabir ‘Shab’ Bhatti, many of the young men were investigated, threatened with action and even had their movements restricted.

Here you go, in no particular order (click on the images to enlarge them): 

Report 1:

Report 2:

Report 3:

Report 4:

Report 5:

Report 6:


My problem isn’t with the youth, it never has and never will be. Given, it always makes me laugh when I read about matters concerning the sorry state of affairs the Ahmadiyya Jamaat, as it blows their boasts out of the water about being ‘the best of the best’. Through my year and a half of researching the Ahmadiyya Jamaat at a very close level, after infiltrating the top circles and having had access to a lot of files/reports/documents, I have also realised that these so called divine schemes of 'Wassiyat' and 'Waqfe Nau' are nothing but a farce. They claim that those that are members of such schemes are exemplary Ahmadis, but as just one report I managed to get my hands on shows (See report 6), it is far from the truth!

Back to the point..who do these people think they are, demanding explanations into what these youngsters get up to? Who do they think they are, pointing fingers, when their own families are far from perfect? Why is it that unconnected children are pulled in for questioning about 'socialising with girls', when it is a known fact that the son of the 2nd Amir of Jamaat e Ahmadiyya is a drug user and married a 'ghair Ahmadi', whom he later divorced? Why do their children get away with it, but common Ahmadis are made to feel like social villains? Who are they to question and interfere, then on the other hand proclaim to be a community that is free and equal, brandishing mainstream Muslims as extremists who interfere in the religion/lives of others? Where does Shirjeel Tahir get off  demanding answers from a married father, and also try to suggest that his 'Sunni' friends are a bad influence! Hey Huzoor, it seems like your Jamaat youngsters are doing a blinding job of 'messing around'!

So what exactly has your 'Promised Messiah' done for your community exactly, where the youth are so far detached from this 'revived and true Islam', that after only 100 years of Mirza Ghulam Qadiani's 'Prophetic claims', things are so messed up that there is even talk of prostitutes being hired by young Ahmadi men? So much so, that you are having to spy, investigate and report on your youth? You are already witnessing your Jamaat succumb to the fitnah of the 'outside world'! Did you not recently claim in your Friday 'Sermon' that Ahmadis were the only ones holding the banner of Islam? Really? What makes you so different? Nothing! Absolutely nothing! It is all lies and fabrication. What really disgusted me about all this is how they (Shirjeel and this Tarbiyyat Department of Shabir Bhatti) were encouraging the young men to grass each other up and fess up dirt about the other! So much for 'Brotherhood'. LOL. Is this your Jamaat Huzoor? Wow! I really want to stay a part of it! Full of snakes, grasses and what's the polite word for female dogs? 

This is not Islam, this is a Cult! This Jamaat fools its followers into thinking it is one and the same thing! The way they have auto-tuned this community is something like this: No Khalifa- No Nizaam-No Jamaat- No Islam! How about…no! I really hope the younger generation take a stand and refuse to be pushed around by Dr Shabir Bhatti and his thugs. They only have this social power because people are willing to take what rubbish comes their way. If Shabir Bhatti or any member of this make believe 'Department of Tarbiyyat' ever tries to investigate any of you, politely tell him where to go. How dare he commission investigations on youngsters, when their parents have not requested their help? Oh and pull the other one if you think this jiggery pokery about 'at least the jamaat cares'! Do you really think these youngsters are going to take kindly to someone like Shirjeel Tahir prodding them for information on their 'sins'? No! it will only push them away! 

Shabir Bhatti, as evident from these reports where Shirjeel says 'to show regards towards the Jamaat'. This is all it is about! Where was there any mention of their 'Emaan'? You seem to care a lot about the reputation of the Ahmadiyya Jamaat, so how about organising twice weekly intensive Quran classes in centres throughout your country? Oh yes, of course, because this isn't about Islam.

Ahmadiyya Youth…The Lost Generation. What a shame! They are force fed a fake 'Islam', so isnt it any wonder that they turn away from it altogether. Shame on you Rafiq, Masroor and all your helpers. Shame on you! Remember you people are not immortal! How long do you have left hey, Shabir? 10 years? What about you Rafiq? 5-10 years? Nasser? 15-20 years? The years pass by real quickly. One of the signs of the hour is that time will pass quickly. It's happening, isn't it? Soon there will come a time when you will not be sat at a computer reading this! Instead, you will be wrapped in a white sheet, buried in a box, 6ft deep! We have ourselves to answer for but you guys, participating in this fraud, will have the lost generation to answer for too! SHAME ON YOU for stealing their deen from them..shame on you all!

I would like to end with this Ayah:
 
And conceal not the evidence, for he who hides it, surely, his heart is sinful. 
Surah Al-Baqarah 2:283.

^ Pay attention Rafiq Hayat et al.

Hope you are OK Raf. ;) Don't stress too much, remember what the doctor said! ;)

60 comments:

  1. Sharjeel Tahir. You are being reported to Police along with Shabbir. Shame on you. Remember to speak truth to Police.

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  2. Saleem Mirza is going to be a new Ameer son of PA of RAF KK sahib

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  3. Shabbir Bhatti(LANAT on him-Curse on him). He thinks himself as big brother of this cult.
    He himself showed insult to Fiqa of Ahmadiyya, and announces the DIVORCE of these young boys and girls cases, when cases comes to Qazadh Board, without taking the consent of these husband and wives.
    Is he big brother or act like god.
    LANAT ON such nizam!!

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  4. RAF KK is not able to show his face he is seeing his Real face in the mirror

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  5. Findings eyes and getup is beautiful isnt it

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  6. Is Rafiq aware of this illegal activity. He will deny any knowledge of it, when asked.

    Who is authorising these illegal things.

    That persons name needs to be mentioned.

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  7. He is power drunk and does not bother about what you say hr is mentally and spritualy bankrupt

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  8. The so called great jamat ahmadiyya has to use gundaa tactics to control its children???
    lol
    not much different from the accusations they throw at mullaHS

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  9. Here is a message for the Ahmadi's. I am an ex Ahmadi and I know that there is no Islam in this community.
    The only Islam you will ever find is in the Holy Quran and by following the Holy Prophet SAAW.
    There is no return of Jesus it is a farce from the ex Cristians and Kharjiets to cause dissension amongst Muslims.
    May be that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Sb was a humble and pious person and he may not have written any books we see today.
    But Mirza Mahmumd was definitely deceptive and a manipulator who just wanted to control whatever and whoever.
    Leave this fragmentation and blasphemous group.
    Look at the sermon 17/12/2011 How dare Mirza Masroor Ahmad claim that the completion of Islam was dependant on arrival of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad.
    Has he not read the Holy Quran where Allah SWT stated to the Holy Prophet SAAW "I completed your religion upon you today".
    And for spying on people forget the illegal act it is strictly forbiden in Islam.
    So how do Ahmadis justify spying, was this a new order by Allah SWT given to Ahmadis because I have failed to find it in The Holy Quran.

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  10. Shabbir Bhatti is loyal to his Khalifa. His main job is to keep maximum number of people in the jamat and brain washed them.
    Those who go to clubs, parties and fun activity, spend their money on themself to enjoy, --- it is their life.
    The leadership is not worried about their moral character, they are seeing losing money.
    Shabbir Bhatti himself is biggest kafir on earth and no doubt the worst creature on earth alongwith his real khalifa Hazart Rafiq Hayat, may SATAN be with them(Nazar-un-menienin SHATEEN)

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  11. Look at the sermon 17/12/2011 How dare Mirza Masroor Ahmad claim that the completion of Islam was dependant on arrival of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad.
    Has he not read the Holy Quran where Allah SWT stated to the Holy Prophet SAAW "I completed your religion upon you today".
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    This proves that Mirza Masroor has zero knowledge along with his so called murrabis who said this in the sermon on Friday. This really disgusted me and yet we still have blind followers who do not question Mirza Masroor and even the murrabis do not answer. Mirza Masroor and his murrabis and the administration you will answer to Allah (swt) you have distorted the Holy Quran and Islam in general for the Ahmadis, SHAME ON YOU ALL!!!!!!

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  12. Get rid of these evil monsters

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  13. With Shabbir Bhatti and B*****d Rafiq HAYAT, of annoucing the divorces of young Ahmedi boys and girls, without their consent is abuse to their position as trustees, then spying, defamation of characters of these young boys and girls.
    It seems it is a police case, or just legal case against both and this Jamat.
    Raf has announced the legal action threat, and this is the reason he could not have courage to take legal action.
    TRAPPED IN THEIR OWN NET, FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLS

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  14. RAF and MAS can not face courts

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  15. ££££££ WHERE Is RAF'S LEGAL ACTION ££££££££££££

    To find out more, please visit this link,

    http://ahmediorg.yuku.com/topic/4120/Amir-UK-of-Jamat-A-Rise-and-Fall-about-to-happen

    Mujid Salam

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  16. Please send all these intrusion reports to Police Social Services and MP. These idiots have no defence.

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  17. Why is jamaat getting involved?
    These are matters for the parents or if any crime has been committed, then for the police. What chidren do in their own time, far from Jamaat premises, has nothing to do with them. Unless parents have asked Jamaat for help, it is none of their business.
    Can't they see, how much of a cult/dictatorship they have turned into under the direction of Rafiq and Shabir. It is all about CONTROL. Not even teachers, police, social workers have the kind of powers they try to assert.
    At the bottom of it all is the ever looming threat that we will throw you out of the jamaat and your parents will be shamed. Well, REALITY CHECK, you have another 20 years max before the generation that cares about your shaming tactics and threat of 'berstee' dies out.
    How will you control us and extort money from us then???

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  18. Message for RAFIQ HAYAT and his team :-)

    Listen guys, the leader of NORTH KOREA has died, and there is a vaccum of leader and his team. As you had vast experience in ruining the lives of own people, torcher, terror, lies, corruption, and spreading mis-information in public.
    Raf you will be best to serve the North Korea, please go their and report.
    Bye

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  19. findings you mentioned
    "Hope you are OK Raf. ;) Don't stress too much, remember what the doctor said! ;)
    what are you implying is he to stressed?
    how do you know ?
    he does not seem to stressed.
    how do you know he has consulted a doctor?
    can you clarify please

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  20. anon 13:45 everyone around him knows!

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  21. Hey Plane aka Pilot Boy

    You're Waqf-e-nau

    Sherlock

    *_*

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  22. Compile all these reports and send them to Raf's lawyers so they can see what illegal activities him and Shabbir Bhatti are authorizing. They're human right specialists so they can see for themselves what Rafiq Hayat and co are doing.

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  23. RAF and MAS are full of grudges can never forget continue to revenge and run vendatta against those they donot like

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  24. @Findings, who is this Sherlock character? another dafter donkey trying to play mind games and hurt innocent families? Please keep up the good work and don't let this person (who clearly has nothing better to do) interfere with your reports.

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  25. More boring reports. If you have some real scandal lets see it !

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  26. Resign Resign Resign

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  27. DANGER AHEAD!
    Message to all unmarried boys and girls, as we have been forced to marry with ahmedis, then this Shabbir Bhatti has the power to cancel your Nikkah, if your cases comes to QAZADH.

    Where in Islam -- it allows??????????

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  28. Laws anx policies are applied hit and trial if it ix GS' daughter's case haq mehr is paid if ordinary ahmadi case no if RAF family case is paid if opposit known to RAF or other leaders no arbitaray policy application and exceptions in jamaat has reduced respect of leaders in the eyes of right thinking people they ask why MAS cannot attend nikah of ordinary ahmadi only atrends khas ul khas that is leading to indiscipline and corruption

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  29. These corrupt leaders have made their own laws now they can do and undo. Majority of kenyan leaders in jamaat have no tarbiyyat of nizam e jamaat they hsve thus made their own mizame jsmaat i see them like lahoris they show instinct of dominating khalifa and his will they manuer and find way to make him bow to their desires

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  30. @ 22:53 you are either too brainwashed or too dumb to appreciate the significance of these reports.
    Do you really think asserting this type of control, power and blackmail over others is okay?
    Is is really okay to create your own set of rules and regs that bear no resemblance to the laws of the country?
    If this Jamaat is so unhappy with the laws of this country then they should go back to rabwah.

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  31. Danger AHEAD!!!!

    when boys and girls getting young, the Jamat forced them to marry within jamat, as the khadan has messed up with other muslim sects.
    Then if some arguments come, this Khadan led QAZADH board, announce divorce without the consent of husband and wife.
    This could not be possible in courts or any other SHARIA court of world.

    How this jamat claim victory in case of Sharia courts debate with ''one law for all''.

    Hidding truth is worse then telling a lie!!!!

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  32. MESSAGE FOR FINDINGS!!
    Please find out more and start exposing the hidden business of Mirza Masroor and his son,khadhan, Rafiq hayat and Shabbir Bhatti and et al. These people have PROPERTY portfolio, where they used to keep asylum seekers and claim rent from Social services. Similarly, they also create and divide spouses and never resolove the issue. The spouse who comes towards them, they provide shelter in their own properties and then via this SHABBIR BHATTI, they issue divorce without taking proper consent of parties involove, so they get long term tennant for their properties. For this purpose the immigrant spouse are the best one for them.

    This is the reason, they never provide mediation, like other muslims Sharia courts do, court of the country do and all organisations in this situation.
    WHY THEY HIDE THIS TRUTH from their own members and UK Authorities????

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  33. I think they should be exposed to the world with their dirty dealings one eg is the ex wife of Tommy Kallon, they threw her out of the jamaat for merely asking for her rights regarding maintenance.

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  34. Shabbir Bhatti, B******d, resign, or you waiting to be thrown out of your office. You have changed the Islam, made own rules to please this Khadhan. Are you not worried about Qayamah?

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  35. These fools should realise that responsibility also comes with volunteer work. The people doing volunteer work should keep that in mind that they are not doing any thing illegal or against the law. Also should think that these intrusion activities can lead them into trouble with UK authorities.

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  36. THIS IS DR SHABIR BHATTI SPEAKING23 December 2011 at 07:57

    Dear Rafiq. I am sorry I broke the rules and regulations, and exposed your 'problems' to my Wife. It was the slip of the tongue! I did tell her not to open her fat trap but it didn't stop her! It seems that me and you have something in common; our Biwis don't know when to shut their cake holes! I know I am your Private doctor and I should have adhered to Doctor/Patient confidentiality but I didn't mean you any harm! Rafiq now a lot of people know, and I am sorry. Yesterday my cousin told me that Security lot were laughing at the 'problem'. Forgive me yaara, meray kohl ghaltee hogay! Aja mera kenyan pra, chupee dehday! I will give Findings a big Chitur round the head when I get my hands on her scrawny little neck! Gundi Bachi. Her mum and dad did no tarbiyyat so when I get my hands on her I will sort her tarbiyyat out in no time. She is getting big fat chitur in the back of the head. I am sorry hardly no1 is voting for you in the polls Rafiq! Yaara, let's do what we do best and send an email out to all of Majlis Khuddamul and Ansarul Ahmadiyya UK and encourage to vote 'NO'. What do you think? Rafiq, don't worry, you won't be going anywhere! This will blow over and it will soon be BAU!

    May God be with you,

    Dr Shabir.A.Bhatti.

    Naib Amir UK.

    By the way findings I will give you chitur you gundi bachi koi khuda ka khauf karo!

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  37. THIS IS DR SHABIR BHATTI SPEAKING23 December 2011 at 07:58

    How dare you call me B*****d. I give you chitur as well. What's your name? I will have you expelled from the Jamaat of Allah because I can do what I want!

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  38. Shabbir don't resign as you are truthful

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  39. Merry Xmas and a happy new year to the findings team may all be guided to the true Islam and not a cult.

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  40. wish u all merry xmas and a happy new year

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  41. People like shabbir and rafiq aren't truthful or honest. Ask their own brothers who they don't get on with and have stabbed in the back.
    These are the shining examples of Ahmadiyya 'leadership'.

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  42. Shabbir Bhatti, I was reading the comments above, bring a single clause from Shariat of Hazart Mohammed pbuh or fiqa of Islam or your own Jamat fiqa. That this Jamat had the authority to announce the divorce without the consent of husband and wife.

    If you do not then you are following a false religion, it is not Islam. This is challenge to you and your Jamat.

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  43. Hey Plane aka Pilot Boy

    Further proof I know who you are

    On twitter you follow 81 people and you have 4 followers.

    •_•

    Sherlock

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  44. So wait a minute. An official representative of the 'True Islam', the 'saved sect', 'Allahs Jamaat' etc. is accusing a person of adultery. Where are the four witnesses? If he wants to accuse someone of adultery, then he should be able to present at least four wtinesses who saw the act.

    Ok, so he is only asking him to confirm the rumours, but that's the same as far as I'm concerned. If he had any knowledge of Islam and any shame he wouldn't act on silly rumours.

    Since he can't present four witesses those people who reported him and he himself should be punished with 80 lashes. That is the punishment according to the shariah. That's what true Islam is.

    But will this ever happen? Will Mirza Masroor and Raf 'The Shirkster' Hayat even advocate such a punishment for the young Qaid? Of course not, because they do not follow Islam. They won't be able to explain their endorsement of Allah's law to their oh so beloved politicians.

    The funny thing is those politicians are only interested in votes and donations. When something the Jamaat proposes doesn't suit their purpose or their deeply held beliefs they simply go against the Jamaat as we saw with Justine Greening MP and K5s palace at Fazl mosque. LOL! That's the same Justine Greening who gave speeches at Peace Conferences at Baitul Futuh and who invitied Mas to the Houses of Parliament.

    This whole Jamaat is full of unislamic acts and corruption. If Ahmadiyya was the true Islam, this sort of reporting and questioning wouldn't happen in the first place.

    I so cannot wait till I'm out of this fake Islam... it's fake as fake gets.

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  45. What does Shirjeel Tahir do? What type of job and his background details will be interesting. Some one please put these details.

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  46. And now you follow 82...

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    Sherlock

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  47. anons 23-dec (merry xmas)!!!! you so called muslims keep wishing each other merry Xmas.

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  48. And now 5 followers, interesting how they've stayed the same or weeks. But the night I mention it on here they change... Yes pilot boy. I have definitely found you

    Merry Christmas

    •_•

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  49. RAF only needs fame and he has got unfortunately notorious full of allegations good or bad true or false but fame has turned into defame he and his family will never be able to overcome in many generations title of corruption nepotism vendatta satanic agenda he keeps against innocent people he has earned hell fof him hd cannot sleep in peace cannot show in face eyes high up you see how God takes His revange on behalf of poor abd weak worst than his excommumication evil act

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  50. I feel MAS is keeing him as ameer Intentionally as a punishment he will die his own death

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  51. Lol @ sherlock. Keep on at your time wasting detective work... Keep on. One thing you might want to keep in mind: I was born quite some years before your Guru leader Tahir Ahmad introduced the sacrificial scheme for the Waqf e Nau. But carry on..seems like you are having fun :D

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  52. Before pointing fingers about merry xmas.do you knowww every year your sicko cult leaders send xmas gifts to neighbours???? Did you know last year they gifted all the local residents of putney HQ with liquor chocolates using chanda money??? NO?? Well then..hush your beak and get your own house in order. Filth bags.

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  53. Hi Sherlock,

    Never knew you were such a HIMYM fan.

    *_*

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  54. What is the proof of Liqor choc. Any photos

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  55. No. But ring up the daftar and ask them to deny it. I know this because my father happily brought home a spare box last year.

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  56. Hi Findings!

    Im and Non Ahmadi and i believe that Jesus Physically flew like superman to heaven eventhough its against the laws of nature and therefore the laws of god.

    and guurrlfriend, i think you need some love in yow life. why all the hate? you need Jesus in your life! Praise Jesus!

    Holla

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  57. Findings why are you creating friction between Muslims, u r no better than anyone else who creates disorder for their own political gain. U don't care about whether or not ahmadiyyat is true or not. It's just a personal grudge against hitler cough I mean Amir sahib. Done under the guise of being a disenchanted ahmadi

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  58. No grudge RAF is kalink ka teka hay

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  59. I just have thoroughly gone through some of the non-sense and immature approach and a biased and personalised attitude.
    But failed To understand the purpose so far... If the purpose is to disheart Ahmadi Muslims or try to mislead youngsters .... Then it,s a big laugh for me!
    So childish and in avery foolish way.
    I will be back soon and try to gather a little bit more about the main object eventhogh It looked a waste if time so far...

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  60. i was forced to divorce to wife

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