Ahmadiyya Jamaat, Mas and the £40,000+ a year horse breeder

Salam ladies and gents!

Well, well, well.. have you Ahmadis ever wondered where your hard-earned chanda money is spent? Well I can tell you where at least £40,000 worth of it is going! Brother shahzad10 from the cult.info forums came across a very interesting job description for a horse breeder/handler, put up by the Ahmadiyya Jamaat on totaljobs:  

http://www.totaljobs.com/JobSeeking/Animal-HusbandryFarm-Manager_job51686171

So.. looks like Mas is living the good life and ready to splash the cash! In a time of global recession, where even families in London are barely getting by (let alone the rest of the world) Mas thinks it's ok to waste this huge amount of money on a horse breeder! How many hungry mouths can that amount of money feed in a place like Somalia where hundreds of thousands are dying even as we speak? If this isn't rank hypocrisy then I don't know what is.

Have a look at the exact job description below:

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Here's what brother shahzad10 had to say:

£25000 salary + £15000 bonus + accommodation - all of that for Masroor's horses. I guess since Wandsworth Council refused to approve his palace at Gressenhall Road he is now trying to build up a luxurious life in Islamabad. This is £40000 a year of chanda money being wasted on Masroor's horses. £40000 a year! All in the name of Islam of course.

It's time to stop funding Masroor's lavish lifestyle Ahmadis. Chanda is not an islamic obligation. Zakah is the only obligatory payment in Islam and it is not used to fund anyones lifestyle.

Bro Miyyan also raises some interesting questions:

From the British Horse Society:

http://www.horsetrust.org...eyoubuy/affordahorse.pdf

An average horse cost (to buy) = £5000.00
Cost of keeping a horse in UK = £10,000.00 per Annum
Hiring a Animal Husbandry/Farm Manager = £50,000.00 (£2500 salary + £15000 bonus + fully furnished accommodation)

Building a stable, a horse track, a grazing secure yard, and a shelter warm enough to protect horses from the harsh UK winter are some other considerations which require huge financial commitment in UK.

If Mirza Masroor Ahmad Sahib keeps only three horses, the total cost of acquiring horses, making a shelter and keeping for one year piled up to £100,000.00. The amount for Pakistani readers is after conversion 14,000,000 Rs. This means if a family in Pakistan pays an average 1000 Rs. Chanda to Jamat, it requires 14000 families to pay for the cost for the innocent little hobby of ‘Our Becharay’ Huzoor.

A common Ahmadi’s perception about their Hazoor can be easily viewed in the following article;

Temporal and Spiritual Authority of institution of Khilafat:

“If we glance at the lifestyle of … the khulfa of the Promised Messiahas, it is clear that they lived a simple life which is an important prerequisite to honest governance. Despite the fact that they were chosen for life as the Khalifa, they set the examples of impressive leadership styles.”
http://www.alislam.org/to...-Khilafat-20080303MN.pdf

On 5th November, 2010, Mirza Masroor Ahmad Sahib delivered the Friday Sermon at Baitul Futūh Mosque, London. (http://www.alislam.org/fr...0101105.html#summary-tab )

A letter (http://www.alislam.org/tj/sermons/FSJ20101105-EN.pdf ) was sent to every Jamat president to brain washed ever more rigorously to those sincere Ahmadis who were already making financial sacrifices by cutting down their daily necessary basic expenses and saving more money to pay more Chanda to their beloved ‘Hazoor’.

The letter reiterated the message of Mirza Masroor Ahmad Sahib in the following manner.

“he (Mirza Mahmood Ahmad Sahib) urged Ahmadīs to adopt a simple lifestyle and reduce their expenses on food and clothing, etc., so as to contribute more in this cause. By the grace of Allāh, Ahmadī men, women and children made tremendous sacrifices and today Allāh is blessing their progeny with abundance. Witnessing these signs of Allāh’s favours, a believer is motivated to make even greater sacrifices and we can see examples of this everywhere in the Jamā‘at.”

For our Ahmadi Brothers/Sisters:

Hazoor is spending thousands of pounds of chanda payers’ money, which you have paid to him with a great trust. Which sort of category do you think this money should be considered for the propagation of Islam?

Please answer, if you can!

Does a role model Ahmadiyyah Khalifa should behave like a spoiled king? Should only an ordinary Ahmadi have to adjust and adopt a simple lifestyle as advised by KII? Why Mirza Masroor Ahmad Sahib is refusing arrogantly to take the advice of the earlier Khalifa, while very hypocritically asking others to follow that advice?

Hit us up at the cult forums and check it out for yourselves: http://www.thecult.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1660

The Sunday Scandal Session 7: Shabir Bhatti, Ahmadiyya Jamaat, a 'Girl Gang' and yet another report.

Salam. It's Sunday once again! 

Dr Shabir Bhatti, private doctor to Mirza Masroor Ahmad and Secretary to Rafiq Hayat is at it again- authorizing and participating in the spying on young girls in the Ahmadiyya Community, here in London. This time its slightly different and isn’t the random selection of young girls that he chooses to write reports up on and intrude in their lives but reportedly; there is a ‘girl gang’ of Ahmadi teenagers that are a ‘cause for his concern’..

 

Have a read:

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Shabir Bhatti has instructed a girl by the name of Mubaraka to go to deliberate and great lengths to befriend these girls, so that she can feed back information to him (Shabir Bhatti) and his team. Wow! The Ahmadiyyat Brother/Sisterhood is a great one, huh?! What a great culture the Jamaat has, whereby people are instructed to befriend others in the hope they can get ‘damning information’, which is then fed back to the top.

What is up with this culture of snitching within the Ahmadiyya Jamaat and that too, which is actively supported and encouraged by its leadership?! People are encouraged to report those who still have active Facebook accounts, send in ‘incriminating photos’ so that reports can be compiled AND spying/taking live photos of Ahmadis in shisha cafes etc. And doesn’t Islam teach you to cover the sins of your brothers/sisters? Yeah Yeah, Ahmadis are NOT my brothers or sisters thanks, much like Hindus are not and I am under no obligation to them, whereas Muslims are my brothers/sisters! So for those deluded/confused Qadianis out there who insist on making direct comparisons to what I am doing here to that what Shabir Bhatti has commisioned and all previous exposes here, don' bother because the 'brother/sister rule doesn't apply to me! However, these Ahmadis are brothers/sisters to Shabir Bhatti are they not? And what about the girl Mubaraka; were those girls she was backbiting and feeding reports to Shabir Bhatti about not her sisters in so called 'Ahmadiyyat Islam'? Go direct your 'OMG Ghiba, OMG Slander, OMG Findings is a Munafiq' comments over in Shabir Bhatti's direction, eh?

The detail in these reports although not as thorough as previous reports that have been presented here, are more than enough for anyone to form an opinion on a man and his family, and can and has easily damaged the reputation of men within the community. This report is in the hands of quite a few office bearers, many of whom are familiar with the fathers mentioned, so just imagine how they would feel, knowing their daughters are being slated across the board! They are playing with the reputations of very young girls, and then they wail and cry in private that there is a marriage crisis within the community!

I mean seriously, can you blame anyone in the community for being hesistant in wanting to marry some of the girls/guys, when the Nizaam e Jamaat of this community is often responsible for tarnishing the kids names? And what sort of business is this, relying on the hearsay of others to write up these reports, how utterly shameful and shallow of Dr Shabir Bhatti! How dare he! Would he like information on his own daughter because that too, can be easily provided and can be circulated throughout the Jamaat? Yes? Ok then… if he can play with the reputation of another man’s child, he won’t mind someone doing the same with his own! It’s only fair Shabs! No? You don’t want me to do that? Don’t do it to others than you cruel hypocrite! Do your patients know you behave like this during your extra curricular activities with the Jamaat?

The Jamaat has cleverly created an unquestionable state within a state that is not accountable to anyone for its actions! If you don’t like it, they will simply give you the same recycled response of ‘there is no compulsion in religion’ as if to say: ‘if you don’t like it, shove it and get out’- they have no respect for their members! And they claim to be an Islamic Organisation- is this the sort of behavior that one would expect the leadership of the saved sect to be condoning AND participating in?

Shabir Bhatti also carelessly provides telephone numbers of the girls fathers’ in this report, so you should also consider and question just how safe your data is with these amateurs! I know at least 2 others’ who have this report, we could have a right old time prank calling these people if we felt the urge to!

I wouldn’t trust any of my Ahmadi friends/acquaintances as far as I could throw them after reading this! Just picture having an open and frank conversation with an Ahmadi girl only for her to go and report her ‘findings’ to a sleaze like Shabir Bhatti! What is evident from this is that these young girls are actually SNOOPING through mobile phones for ‘incriminating’ pictures and texts messages, so Ahmadis beware, keep your belongings with you at all times and do not let your loving Ahmadis near them! Word: do not leave your phones in the possession of girls at the check points at the Qadiani centres when visiting them; I have information to also suggest they are going through your phones taking screen shots etc!

This report and the others presented here are just the tip of the iceberg; just imagine how many others there are out there that you are not being exposed to! If you think this is bad, just think about how much more proof of their corruption is out there somewhere, that even I have no way of getting my hands on! I have some more information on Shabir Bhatti’s ‘State within a State’ that will go up eventually, and that will prove to be a VERY interesting read! This right here is nothing….
 

So Rafiq Hayat, National President of the Ahmadiyya ‘Muslim’ Community of the United Kingdom care to explain what YOUR deputy is playing at here? Have you an explanation or at the very least, a justification for this? No, of course not, because you cannot possibly justify such disturbing intrusion into young girls’ lives! Who are you to question anyone’s parenting skills, when your own deputies have messed up batty boys for kids and druggies too? Don’t know what I am talking about? One day…you WILL know and you will do well to remember that 'one day'! So how about you stop crying wolf about my alleged ‘hate crimes’ against your measly little community and start thinking of what you will say when the media/authorities get their report on YOU and YOUR people!

Love for all, Hatred for None? Or Love for White-Man, Hatred for Members! Yes, that sounds about right!

Come on Ahmadis; you are in a CULT and the sooner you realize this, the better! How are you going to allow for this to happen right under your nose, in liberal and relatively Free State, and then all the while, claim to be engaged and intelligent? That ain’t engaging and this ain’t clever!

Note: If you suspect you or your family are victims of the Jamaat’s spying and tarnishing in this report, please get in contact and I can provide you with the original documents, so long as you can satisfy a few questions I have to ensure you are who you say you are.

Tune of the Day: The Final Countdown by Europe

Ahmadiyya Jamaat: Business or Religion?

Salaam.

I kid you not people, these are actual pics from a Jamaat brochure from three years back to 'celebrate' the Khilafat centenary!! Loooooool! Is the Ahmadiyya Cult a business or religion? I say... Business!!!

Click the pics above to enlarge them...

Might I remind you Ahmadi readers, what Mirza Ghulam Ahmad himself said about photographs:

(Somebody got the photograph of the Holy Founder of the Ahmadiyya Jamaat printed on Post Card and intended to sell the card to the people on them thus showing the picture of the Holy Founder to the addressees. When this matter was brought to the notice of Hazrat Aqdas, Huzur said): 

According to me, it is not good (to print the photographs like this). This is the first step towards innovation. When I allowed my photograph to be taken, the idea was that the European who are very far from us - and they can assess the character of a man by looking at his picture - should be shown this photograph so that they can be benefited by doing so; it would have been a spiritual gain for them. The photograph is such a thing that its being forbidden is not like the things that are unlawful (haram); he who can take a decision about this kind of affairs (the one who is a Mujtahid) can assess the value of the occasion and give permission for its use. The permission that I have given to use my photograph is based on the need of the Europeans. I have received some letters from Europe and America wherein it is mentioned that having seen the photograph they have arrived at the conclusion that this is just the same Messiah. The photograph, at times helps the physician diagnose the disease. So far as the Shariat is concerned it preserves all such things for a longer period of time as are useful to the people. 

The photographs that have been printed on the Post Card should not be purchased. Picture is the basis of idol worship. When a man has faith in some one he definitely gives more of respect to his photograph. One must guard against these things and stay away from them lest our Jamaat may become the victim of a calamity at the very initial stage. I have mentioned this fact in a book of mine that it is not permitted; this book is under print. I am very much annoyed with the members of the Jamaat who deal in this kind of things; God is also unhappy with them.

Of course, if there is anything that can benefit the soul of a person, that would be an exceptional case.

(A postcard with photograph was shown to the Holy Founder of the Jamaat. He remarked that this was not permitted). 

(Another person brought a bundle of postcards of this kind and showed it to Hazrat Aqdas and told him that he had bought these cards to sell. He asked as to what should he do to them. Hazrat Aqdas said: ) 

Burn them; destroy them. It tantamount to disgrace of the religion and disgrace of the Sharia. Do not keep them at home. They are of no use at all, rather, this kind of things lead to idol worship. Had you printed a sentence or two for preaching purpose, in place of this photograph, it would have been better for you

Here's the link if you doubt me: http://www.alislam.org/library/malf049.htm

Why are the Ahmadiyya Jamaat going against the orders of their own prophet? Can't you see the irony of having this quote up on their official website that's littered with pics of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad and his so-called Khalifas? And all these self made Jamaat officials like Rafiq and Nasser... I smell something..what is that? Oh yeah- HYPOCRISY! Mr Rahmatullah, Mr Head of IT of Jamaat Ahmadiyya can you explain this, seeing the rest of your colleagues are playing silly beggars and pretending to be deaf and dumb?!

So..Business OR Religion? Marketing or Muslim?

Tune of the Day:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsdj9NRzqC4

The Sunday Scandal Session 6: Ahmadiyya Jamaat Drives Single Mother to Contemplate Suicide

Salaam and a good evening to you all!

Apologies for the late posting today, I had to meet up with someone and then decided to stay out in the sun all day and go shopping! While I was basking in the glorious autumn sunshine on this fine day, I am sure lots of you chicks were enjoying the Ijtema in London… or maybe not then!

I thought we should keep with the theme and keep it all female this weekend, given the importance the Ahmadiyya Jamaat places on women attending this whack, good for nothing gossip sessions; I am sure many of you will be interested to read about the mistreatment and cruelty some women have suffered at the hands of the cruel Ahmadiyya Jamaat and its Nizaam.

Have a read of this letter that I found in some files of some past letters I have at home (names/addresses and other sensitive information have been removed):

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Shame on the Ahmadiyya Jamaat, to treat a woman and a single mother, so badly, to the point she was contemplating suicide and was driven to suicidal thoughts! How shameful that for an organization that claims to be advanced and a rejuvenation of Islam, it has proven in this case what a backward and bent cult it really is, and its treatment/position on women is truly shocking! This is what happens, and these are just some of the consequences of going through the Jamaat's self-made and so called 'justice' system before taking it to the Courts of the Land! Note how the lady says she was forced to go to the courts, as if trying to justify herself to the Nizaam and Masroor why she resorted to the courts over the 'Qadha' board.

What a shamoblic system, whereby we have old freshies dealing with sensitive cases such as divorce, and they expect a woman, separated from her husband, to accept everything they throw at her? Where was the help and intervention from a fellow Ahmadi woman for example, why was it that ghair-mehram men were left to deal with this matter with no sisterly support for the woman? Of course in this patriarchal cult men are all for men, and they were going to be biased, and this makes the whole situation all the more sorry and pathetic, that there was no female support for this poor woman, outnumbered by men! Why were they so insensitive to her problems, adding to her worries and anxieties, treating the whole situation as if it was a joke?

This is just one case of many. This poor woman was nearly driven to take her own life before she decided to speak out against the injustices heaped upon her by this disgusting cult. Imagine how many other women there are in the Ahmadiyya Jamaat who keep their silence, whilst being treated like second class citizens. Islam came as a mercy to mankind and elevated the status of women; whilst this cult headed by amatuer, power-hungry men make a mockery of the name of Islam.

Ahmadiyya Girls in the UK advised to Boycott Muslims!

Sometime back, there was a guy, a closet Muslim no doubt, who was posting on the forums as Khalid. Khalid came across the following email, sent by the National President for Lajna (Ahmadi Ladies) in the UK to all local (halqa) presidents, advising them to pass on this message:

Dear Sadr Sahiba

Assalamo alaikum wa Rehmatullah wa Barakatohu

May Allahtallah grant you and your family a long life in good health and happiness. Amen. In the wake of recent opposition by non Ahmadi Muslims, in the UK, against our Jama’at, this is just a reminder for all of us to be aware of the circumstances and to take extreme caution, especially the youth who can be easily targeted by the opposition. Hence, Ahmadi girls, especially those in universities, should not join any Islamic unions or groups on campus, as such groups can also begin to spread hatred against our Jamaat. Young girls should be extremely cautious when making new friends at colleges and universities. They should also not be over confident and trusting with friends they have known for longer. As we all know, the internet can have positive points but we should also keep in our mind the dangers then can arise. A girl’s honour, respect and dignity, is very precious and difficult to get back once lost. Girls should be strongly discouraged from uploading their pictures on the Internet or giving them away otherwise, for example as part of a group picture. Girls should be discouraged from joining any social online network, as anyone can pose as an Ahmadi in order to try and befriend Ahmadi girls with the sole purpose of influencing them negatively against the Jama’at. Please continue to pray that Allah may protect all of us against harm, Ameen. Jazakallah. Wassalam,

p.p.

Shmaila Nagi

Sadr Lajna Imaillah UK

And then they say they are the ones who are alienated and maligned by mainstream Muslims, when their REVERT president is spewing out this sort of hatred?! Talk about scare mongering and sensationalising the so called 'hatred' against the Ahmadis, discouraging Ahmadi girls from keeping Muslim friends and joining Islamic societies!

This woman's hatred for Muslims speaks volumes and is very clear for all to see! On initial reading someone might be excused if they thought this was written by a member of the BNP! This email clearly shows how much of a cult the Ahmadiyya Jamaat really is. Even before Ahmadi girls start university they are being indocrinated against Muslims. Control.. control.. control.. that's the name of the game for the Jamaat. Heaven forbid an Ahmadi girl mixes with a Muslim girl and catches some terrible anti-Jamaat disease!

The irony in all of this, is that the Ahmadiyya Jamaat themselves go on and on about how Muslims boycott Ahmadis. They cry and shout and scream with little evidence and run to the local papers and try to kick up a fuss: click here. When in reality it is the Ahmadiyya cult that calls for boycotts against innocent Muslims, as evidenced in the above email.

I thought this cult's motto was 'Love for all, hatred for none'?! Where is the love? I think we can all agree that 'Love for tyranny, hatred for Muslims' is much more apt. Shamaila Nagi...SHAME ON YOU!!

World: This is the REAL face of the Ahmadiyya Community: a community that actively encourages boycotting of Muslims, and then goes crying to the white man that all they want is to be accepted! What a joke and this woman, the biggest joker!

Oh and lets hear the 'we were kicked out of our prayer room at uni' comments... go on! It pays no relevance but I know some of you are dying to say it already!

Read it for yourself here:

http://www.thecult.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=929

and here:

http://thecult.info/blog/2010/12/18/ahmadi-girls-told-to-boycott-muslims/

P.S. And to all my haaaters, here's my tune of the day: Barbie girl by Aqua! I'm thinking it should be more like: 'I'm a qaadi girl, in a cuuuult woorllddd ooh whoa ooh ahoa'!

The Sunday Scandal Session 5: SPY (on) AHMADIYYA KIDS: The Follow Up!

Salaam! It’s Sunday or more like 'Cloud'day here in miserable old England, and it’s that time of the week again! So guys, I have been reading all the feedback I have been getting (mostly insults but hey, it’s to be expected and I love it so keep them coming because you haterators are my motivators!!) and have noted that quite a few of you find my posts way to long! Points have been noted and I am going to try and keep it simple from now on, but do let me know if this is still too long, so I can reach middle ground :)

So last week I went off track somewhat with the £400k fraud scandal and want to take it back to the original theme of the spying by the Ahmadiyya Jamaat on the Waqf e Nau Kids! This post in particular I am dedicating to a very dear friend of mine, whom we shall call  'Frederick Robdal' :) Big Up Babes and thanks for the Sheesha... no reports on me just yet from the 'cabbies'!! ;) Cabbies is Frederick Robdal's code word for Qadis by the way, just incase their were spies about! lol. How pathetic an image the Ahmadiyya Jamaat must have in the outside world, it really is a joke!!

Let’s get the ball rolling then shall we, and wrap this topic up!

This is a follow on from 'SPY (on) KIDS, and the documents that will follow make up part of the reports that featured in the original blog post, which you can find a few scrolls down! This is a more detailed report on some of the kids that were photographed and also some newbies that were not mentioned in the original report. It discusses action that should be taken etc... I will admit to photoshopping these documents after scanning the originals; reason being that there were columns in Urdu and not being able to read Urdu myself, I couldn't risk the names being exposed here as I had no way of having them read through and translated! What you see is what you get for the rest! Below are 4 images, with a total of 10 'reports' that are pretty self-explanatory, so have a good read over....

These reports not only show the backwardness of the Ahmadiyya Jamaat; I mean come on look at report 1 ‘enjoying himself in a limousine’, that is beyond funny, but also, how intrusive the system is! Where does Raf Hayat get off ‘interviewing’ young lads like that I mean, who and what does he think he is? Carrying on like some CID with a qualification for being a social worker too? A ‘state within a state’ is what this is, led by hypocrites who pose in front of the cameras to give off an image of being tolerant and loving ! Shame on you Mr Liberal Rafiq Hayat, you are not their parent, no relation of theirs and have no right to question them on their actions! What would your colleagues make of this backward and intrusive behaviour? And then because he was ‘enjoying himself in a limousine’ you want to ban him from the Waqf e Nau classes? I have no reason to believe that there is genuine concern for their wellbeing but instead, all the Ahmadiyya Jamaat seem concerned with is the reputation of the Wafqs in general and that he might rub off on other kids and they might all end up ‘enjoying themselves in limos’. Anything is better than those awful classes though, right kids?

Take report 2: so people are now sending in pictures of girls are they? Is this the sort of behaviour the Ahmadiyya Jamaat is encouraging and condoning, to spy on your own people and grass them up!? Clearly no ‘loving thy neighbour’ going on here but instead, we have back stabbing spies within the ‘brother/sisterhood’ of the Ahmadiyya Jamaat, snitching on their own like that! So not only is the Ahmadiyya Jamaat guilty of spying, it actively encourages others to tell on members too! One poor girl was almost sent to Pakistan because of the Ahmadiyya Jamaat intruding and poking their jumbo jet noses into their home life! This is worrying because it shows the impact the Ahmadiyya Jamaat can and does have on families, and the extreme steps some parents consider taking because of the Ahmadiyya Jamaat! It’s obvious from some of these reports that the Ahmadiyya Jamaat spies rely heavily on the words and opinions of others too, and people are feeding back what ‘she said, he said’ to the Ahmadiyya Jamaat and they are using this against the young girl! And look at the suggested restrictions, not ‘meeting freely with Huzur’ like the youngsters are lepers! If they are doing something wrong, shouldn’t they pull them in and keep them close NOT force them out like that! For Ahmadis their so-called 'Khalifa' is divine and to be prohibited from meeting with him would cause a great deal of distress! If the kids are not bothered by it, the parents would be horrified to learn of this restriction! One can only imagine the tension in their households at the time! Nice one Ahmadiyya Jamaat UK!

Check the report on the girl putting pictures up on ‘the internet’! The backward murrabi who wrote this probably meant ‘Facebook’ but for those who this report was intended for, they could mistake it for her circulating it on random public sites! The Ahmadiyya Jamaat doesn’t stop at just punishing the youngster for their ‘bad behaviour’; they take it to the parents too and make sure they are dealt with too! Threats that they will be denied the right to work for the Ahmadiyya Jamaat at an administration level, if they can’t fix up their children and get their homes in order! How cruel this is, to humiliate them and take what they consider a great blessing away from like that! Imagine the impact this would have on them but also the relationship they share with their child! And the hypocrisy, ohhh it smells so bad! Check NASIR KHAN: why is he still in position after his son married out of the Ahmadiyya Jamaat? You see, ordinary ‘bottom of the barrel’ Ahmadis get it in the neck but the top brass they on the other hand, are on safe ground!

Some reports recommend some children be excluded from the scheme altogether, while it has been proposed that others should be restricted from attending classes for some time, until a Jamaat official decides otherwise. Who are they to determine which ‘crime’ is more serious than the other, and who gets to stay in and who doesn’t? This is pathing the way for discriminative and unjust treatment; some suffer while others get a few taps on the wrist, both of which are highly condemnable and should'nt be happening in the first place!

So Mr Rafiq Hayat, president of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Association of the United Kingdom, care to explain why you permitted and authorised the spying of youngsters and why you yourself, ‘Amir Sahib’ were involved in the questioning of some of those reported? Care to explain why members of your administration are playing with the reputations of young girls like that when writing these reports up? Care to explain why non administrative members are sending in pictures of ordinary members? Care to explain why they think it’s OK to do that? Care to explain why you are even allowing reports to be written on ‘hearsay’? Care to explain why this system of ‘reporting’ even exists? Or care to explain why your youth are behaving the way they do? With a controlling tarbiyyat department, you’d expect top notch ‘make believe Muslims’ to be churned out but even your own Qaids can’t even control themselves! No reports there though, right? No exactly, I thought not! And then you have the cheek to go around calling me a munafiq! 

World there you have it again; the spying and tell tales of the Ahmadiyya Jamaat UK! Creepy ain’t even the word…. my oh my, only if the white man really knew what these Qadiani people were really about! And Ahmadi parents... why are you allowing the Ahmadiyya Jamaat Self Styled Police to force their way into your family lives and talk about your children this way, as well as questioning your parental skills? Sort it out loves and protect your families and tell these punks to go take a running jump!

Tune of the Day:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNPIOi2LiQk

^ go on sink your teeth into that one! Let’s have the topic diversions! I am making it easy for you all, no need to bring up the old ‘you like red lipstick you are materialistic ummmmmm’. Go on… let’s hear it! Big tune though, reminds me of last few years of High School! Ahhh good times!And yes I smoked some sheesha but Frederick Robdal might have been a girl! You'll never know...so don't start shouting the odds! I can feel you getting angry Anonymous poster!

Check back next week as usual and then again on Sunday! 

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Expuslions/Restrictions in the Ahmadiyya UK Jamaat: Courtesy of Shabir Bhatti!

Salaam.

We all know about the mass expulsion of 30 members of the American Jamaat: http://thecult.info/blog/2010/12/31/ahmadiyya-wedding-nazis-mass-public-expulsions/ right? Let's keep it local on this Saturday afternoon and let me give you an example of a fairly recent case here in the UK; this one is a case different from most, because it involves the brother of Shabir Bhatti, his (brother's) wife and his eldest son.

Would you like some background to the case? Oh ok then, you nosey parkers you! :P

Here is the dealio:

Basically, like a lot of Pakistanis (and Shabir Bhatti not being an exception), he fought his brother over money and land. Well actually, the original dispute was actually between Shabir Bhatti's father and his brother but when unfortunately, the father passed away, Shabir Bhatti decided to take lead and the whole family ganged up against Shab's poor brother.

It went something like: Dad Vs Shabir Bhatti's brother. Dad dies, Shabir Bhatti et al considered that to be his father's money, therefore inheritance money, so wanted Shabir Bhatti's brother to cough up, turning it into a Shabir Bhatti et al Vs Shabir Bhatti's brother. Anyways, so Shabir Bhatti's brother was practically cornered and forced up against the wall. Shab's brother turned to the Jamaat for assistance, but it fell on deaf ears. He asked Mas to help him, pleading his case but unfortunately for Shabir Bhatti's brother, Shab is a Naib Ameer/Secretary of Tarbiyyat for the UK and also private family doctor to Mirza Masroor Ahmad so you can imagine the compromising position Mirza Masroor, the fair and compassionate 'Khalifah' was put in (awwww..NOT).

Anyways, his pleas didnt work, where he asked Mas to basically tell his greedy brother to back off and Shab persisted with legal action to get his brother to cough up! Shab's brother wasn't standing for this and continued to fight, not letting them get their hands on his land and business because of course, he had a family to support! It then went to 'Qadha Board', which is the Ahmadiyya Jamaat's version of the Royal Courts of Justice (loooool OMG get me out of this self contained state already!!) but the problem here is that Dr Shabir Bhatti is also on the Qadha board too, so every avenue his brother tried to take, Shab blocked him with his 'priority in order of preference' connections. Qadha 'mediated' and of course, it went in favour of Shab et al and his brother was very unhappy with the results. They continued to fight it out, and Shab's brother wanted to take it further than that and it went to the courts. And BECAUSE Shab's brother rejected what the Qadha had ruled, he was subsequently punished by the Ahmadiyya Jamaat for trying to go to the courts and had heavy restrictions placed against him, together with his innocent wife and eldest son.

Once they were expelled, both father and son were forced to write to Mas, begging forgiveness if 'any wrong doing had been done on their part' even though all the wrong doing was on the Jamaat's head!

Check the letter detailing their 'sanctions'.... so much for being a TOLERANT > FAIR > LOVING > PEACEFUL > COMMUNI-CULT!!! lol. One face for the media/the western world and another for it's members! There's a word for this sort of behaviour but let's not over do it hey!

The Ahmadiyya Jamaat's slogan is 'Love for all, hatred for none'.. where is the love in publicly humiliating this guy and his innocent family?! This cult has the audacity to run advertising campains with this slogan plastered across buses while secretly they treat their own innocent members with injustice, disdain and hate!!

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Muslims and Non Muslims alike if you are reading, please take a look at what happens within the UK Jamaat, at the hands of Mirza Masroor Ahmad and his team of 'Ameers'. People are being humiliated! Names are being circulated throughout local Jamaats. with people being told of the restrictions placed against those that have been punished. These names are often read out at Jummah and are mentioned in meetings/local committee meetings.

Imagine for an elderly man, the Ahmadiyya Jamaat being all he has ever known and all his social ties being within the Jamaat, to be ostracised and punished like this! Pakistanis are also very proud people; imagine being punished like this so publicly, imagine what that must have done to his self esteem and state of mind! How he must have felt and the thought of the stress this guy must have gone through! Imagine also having to deal with the fact that his wife and son are now being penalised for a dispute that was between himself and his brother, and had nothing to do with them!

What's very worrying here, punishment and violation of human rights aside, is what the cronies of the Jamaat are capable of doing! Do you guys think its some coincidence that Shabir Bhatti, Naib Ameer/Privately paid doctor to Mirza Masroor AND Tarbiyyat Secretary came out on top, while his brother was left to hang dry?? This thuggery has GOT to stop! Mirza Masroor is not a fair leader and what happened here is proof of that! If they have a personal vendetta, they can flex their muscles and can have you done for!

I wonder what the Ahmadiyya Jamaat's It Girl Justine Greening MP would make of all of this? Or how about Lord BT, Jamaat's new celebrity, I wonder if he would care to stand up in the House of Lords and tell everyone just what really goes on in the 'persecuted' sect! Persecuted? The persecutors more like!

So what, you guys are willing to put up with crap all because those 'mullah non Ahmadis' have no alternative system of 'Khilafat', Nizaam, Jamaat and Qadha to offer? Puhlese! I was accused of violating the privacy of AC for exposing the £400k fraud in the Jamaat; well here's news for you: the Jamaat is just as guilty of the same crime but they had no grounds besides someone rejecting the decision of the Qadha! I on the other hand, exposed fraud and I hear crying about 'violation of privacy and human rights'...go whinge in the Jamaat's ear instead.... I have no time for your blatant hypocrisy and flat refusal to accept Jamaat is in the wrong!

I would also like to ask WHY the Ahmadiyya Jamaat is refusing the chanda of an individual when in actual fact, ALL chanda collected is collected as a charity with tax relief! Is a charity allowed to refuse donations?? That's a serious question not a rhetorical one....

First prize to the first Ahmadi to comment 'oooh see Mashallah look at our system it even rejects the Chanda of those with sanctions..see we are not money grabbing Mashallah'. LOL. They've only got millions coming in worldwide, they can afford to restrict the chanda of a few but only to humiliate them! And did you know that once they are given permission and sanctions are lifted, they are then in arrears and have to pay it all back anyways? LOL coz that makes sense!

Also, for those who did not know about this shocking case, please read here about the treatment of Tommy Kallon's (former President of Khuddam UK) wife; at the hands of the Qadha Board and Rafiq Hayat who was also penalised and punished by the Jamaat! You can read about Tayabba's plight here:

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The Sunday Scandal Session 4: Ahmadiyya Ameer UK's Jamaat Office and the Mysterious Disappearance of £400,000!

Salaam.

There has been a slight change in plan; after receiving some feedback on what has been said at an official Ahmadiyya function this weekend, I have decided to up my game and really show the Jamaat I mean business. I had another piece in mind today, an extension of the Waqf e Nau spying scandal, but I think this has got to take priority. Good timing too, while all the big guns are in Surrey enjoy the Khuddam Event, I can casually drop this on them! A nice lil sutin sutin to come home too, hey WINK WINK ;)

This piece is dedicated to our friend Nemo over at www.thecult.info/forum (check their recent post out http://thecult.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1649 ... she/he is kinda cool right?!) and to my dear friend KickAss! KickAss is my Muslim friend who supports my cause and I don’t show my appreciation often enough, so I would like to dedicate this to them too! Nemo expressed their concerns to us over at thecult, worried that the Jamaat is going to call in the authorities, on what grounds I don’t know, so this is to help them understand that the Ahmadiyya Jamaat wouldn't dare go to the authorities and there are plenty of explanations for that. They can't touch us because they have so many discrepancies’ and what have you not, that if they ever called in the police, they are likely to be in the firing line instead! So Nemo et al, don't worry and if they do ever call the 'authorities' in, you remember AhmadiLeaks right? Lol well that was all Child’s Play compared to what I can and will do, if they don't start behaving themselves!

Before we start, let me set the record straight from now, on the comments that will undoubtedly follow (yep man these people are so gotdamn predictable); this might not WOW you or anyone else for that matter because this today, is a matter between ME and THE JAMAAT (its top brass). Read the writ if you want to, but my target audience today isn't anyone besides the top brass of UK Jamaat e Ahmadiyya, so if you want and have better things to do (unlike me), you guys are welcome to close your browser because no one is forcing you to read this! Top Brass are being forced to read this though, because below, they will find a STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL correspondence between Dr Shabir Bhatti (some doctor who holds about 100 different titles in the Jamaat because he has no life) and TOP Jamaati elite. The information therein, is so sensitive, that when I stumbled across it about 3 months ago, it was taped and bound in a file and had some cellophane type wrapping covering it; I spent a good part of 20 minutes trying to scissor my way through the cover. I gathered from the notes in this file that no one, not even Mas, knows about this and not even the PS office is fully aware of what has been going on!

This is TOP SECRET and CLASSIFIED information (you think I’m playing right? If any of you are related to top brass like I am, go check their faces after they have read this…those that don’t know the top brass…don’t talk at me!). You know ages ago the Jamaat were informed there was a leak at the top? Hey, my names Findings and guess what? That leak is me and so now that you all know, the top brass might finally take me seriously and start noting all the damage I have done and the promise of all the damage to come!

Anyhow, you know I said one day I would finish you all off and what not? Consider that a PROMISE if things don't start changing around here, because this now proves I mean business, no messing around! Now I don’t think I should be saying this, but one of you is related to me, so closely in fact, that I am practically immediate family to him! See, I’ve changed my direction from today because as of today, you good for nothing, on a power trip, set of Ameers and Naib Ameers (oh how pathetic with these self made positions that give them a feeling of self worth) will realise there is one man amongst you who they shouldn’t trust and has nicely screwed Raf and Shabir up by letting me get my hands on this! You do realise from today, the game changes right??? You do realise who I could be right?? You do realise for the best part of my life, because of you lot, I have witnessed corruption and filth that means I am technically sitting on a ticking time bomb right?! Yeah! Today, if you catch me out, I don’t care anymore! You know why?? WHEN you throw me out of your sick cult, I will take everything I have with me and that’s including all the evidence stacked up against you, and then nothings holding me back!

Instead, Raf was in a frenzy over some chick in Surrey, and then some model chick from Putney, and then some random guys in random Khuddam pockets; all the while when you could have nabbed me long time back but you failed miserably!! You remember the Jalsa Documents I exposed on thecult? LOL, Nas you are now running around like a headless chicken trying to find out who had access to them, well, today’s scandal might give you a clue! See me, I am not who I seem and you should all be very careful around your families… I don’t think you want to catch me out because once Mas realises which one of you is responsible for me being able to lay my hands on all this information, you are finished for sure!! This is PAYBACK and today I open up your black briefcase for the world to see…starting with this....

Common readers: don’t worry too much, sit back and make sense of it or don’t, I don’t care either way, because like I said, this isn’t for general consumption! You can fuss, fight, say I am blowing it all out of proportion or even accuse me of lying and making this stuff up, but I pay no mind to what little trolls of Fahim Anwer have to say! This today, is between me and the Jamaat top brass, and I am using this platform right here to say what I need to say to them! Me, Raf, Shabz, Nas, Ahmedi Bros and the men mentioned in the documents are all sitting around the big table today...don’t you trolls disturb the vibe mayn!

Any whacko comments will not be authorised and if comments get out of hand, I will disable them. In other words: don’t worry yourself this week yeah, this isn’t even about 'bringing the Jamaat down', its letting them know exactly who I am and what they are up against. Of course you should all be very concerned by what you will read shortly; very concerned actually....this is a huge blow for the internal Nizaam and hopefully it will get some of your minds’ ticking! YES!!!! :D It’s been a long time coming this one, I've wanted to mention this for ages, was going to on the forums ages ago and boy am I glad I held out!

Here are the scanned originals so go ahead, knock yourselves out and hey guys, WELCOME to the inside world of Ahmadiyya 'Muslim' Association UK... I am on the inside and today, I open the doors for you all to be let in! Enjoy, it’s pretty self-explanatory so no introduction necessary.....

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Hey Ahmadis, a quick question and a penny for your thoughts: WHERE THE HELL IS YOUR MONEY GOING??  £400k!!! £400k!!! £400k!!! That's almost half a million English Pounds! £400k of your chanda money, unaccounted for, with an almost definite possibility it was stolen by one of your own people!! What an incompetent Jamaat we have here, whereby they allowed £400,000 GBP to go unaccounted for, and allowed this guy to make ‘payments’ for things with zero evidence as to what exactly he had paid for! So much for an advanced and organised Jamaat, when this sort of thing is going on right beneath their noses and not to mention what I am exposing them for too! They are wasted and so amateur it’s really quite pathetic, but they want you to believe they are a pukka organisation or something? People have access to everything, every damn day, provided you are a member of ‘the administration’ so its hardly 'organised and contained' is it?! What a joke and these people are trying to control us? Don’t be scared of these clowns…they are a joke!

Being a registered charity, benefitting from tax relief through gift aid, you’d expect some transparency right? So why were the authorities not informed about this and called in quicker than they could yelp AHMADIYYA ZINDABAD? lol. They are quick to threaten me with the police and what not for having a Blog (lol ooooh), but why were the police not called on this guy and why was this not formally investigated? I mean I am just someone talking 'foul filth' on the internet, but this duke right here steals £400k from YOU and YOUR JAMAAT and they don't want to call the authorities in then? I tell you why, and I am telling you this because you people are clearly ignorant as to what really goes on in this Jamaat. I am not asking you to trust me and everything I say (I wouldn’t either), but trust my position within the Jamaat and realise I know what many of you don't know! There is no accountability in this Jamaat and to avoid being exposed, and also so that the masses remain oblivious to what really happens within this so called 'saved Jamaat', the Jamaat would rather have some shoddy made up 'committee' investigate and then leave it at that! They can't run the risk of the outside world cottoning on to what really goes on within this cult!

You all, especially those in the UK, need to ask yourselves what sort of characters the Ahmadiyya Jamaat employs, and take a long hard look at who has access to such vast amount of monies! We have this guy here (I can’t, for legal reasons, mention his name personally, but Shabir Bhatti has ;P ) who is reported to have stolen money meant for office equipment for himself, with an aide to assist him in doing so. We have the got-damn shady character of Nasir 'Nas' Khan, Naib ameer and director of Jalsa Salana UK who has in the past, been taken to court over his financial dealings and who wasted in excess of £100,000 GBP catering for VIPs at Jalsa this year. 

They are now in the process of trying to collect £20,000,000 to buy properties, under the guise they are for 'local prayer centres' but hold up, their own are pinching money from their back pockets and the Ahmadiyya Jamaat doesn’t care to inform its shareholders (ie: chanda payers??). You people are coughing up, convinced its spending in the way of Allah, but seems like next mans are using your 'alms' and is spending in the way of Harrods! It’s not like most of you even do it out of your own free will, you pay up because you have to or else you get in trouble, so why bother when you have this sort of fraud and corruption, on such a huge scale?

Take a look at the document: I mean £2700 for a photocopier for his Royal 'High'Ness Rafiq Hayat? You must be kidding me! Bruvs a multi-millionaire...he can fork out for one on his own, it’s for Allah at the end of the day isn’t it? Who gives who the right to determine who has access to the Jamaat's purse?? This guy was paying out for copiers left, right and centre using CA$H, this was no 'pass the plastic' job guys! Where was he withdrawing this money? Jamaat Bank Account maybe or maybe his team is given an allowance or something? Who else has access to these funds? Man, this is what happens when there are too many chiefs...

What’s worrying is that they kept this very hush-hush. OK, so I understand, guilty until proven innocent if the Ahmadiyya Jamaat standards are anything to go by, so we should assume he was dealt with harshly, but why were other 'daftars' not informed? I tell you why, because RAF HAYAT's office is responsible for this huge cock up!

Why was Dr Shabir commissioned to investigate these matters, when he is a doctor by profession and not an auditor nor an accountant? What sort of cowboy show are these punks running? Where is your money going Ahmadi chanda payers???? Why am I hearing ‘It’s ok if its fraud, we paid in good faith and Allah will reward us and deal with him later’…yeah… how many of you are already thinking that? NO it’s not ok, this is NOT ok and this mustn’t be excused! If it took them 6 years to finally cotton onto the fact something wasn't right when photocopiers were being ordered, imagine what other under the table shady deals are going on not just here, but internationally too!

Ok lets just say for arguments sake, Shab and Co got it wrong and their suspicions were unfounded, and the guy hadn’t actually stolen the money but rather, the money just disappeared, is that OK? It might be fine by you, but its certainly not fine by me and I would like to know why such a huge discrepancy is there to begin with in the first place?? Now also consider this; all the accounts they publish for the Charity Commission, you reckon when there are black holes in the accounts they will admit to that? Nah, they will cover it up so it begs the question: how honest and transparent are their accounts?

And all that aside, I am a big fan of telling people what the Ahmadiyya Jamaat says about them behind closed doors so Mr Photocopier Man, this is what your fellow Jamaatis have said about you! So do you see Nemo, this is why they won't call the authorities in, because their offices are so shady that they can't afford to take the chance! Can you imagine the shame and humiliation for the Jamaat if one of their own was carted off to the cop shop?

Yeah-Yeah, I hear the Khuddam Soldier Boys itching to cuss this post, but don't you get it boys? It’s not for you...it’s for THEM! This will cause HUGE DAMAGE to the Nizaam...mark my words, but you are too simple and too brainwashed to understand that! I tell you what this post signifies: 1) No one had access to this apart from a select few, and trust me, if I have this, I have plenty of other information too! 2) Jamaat is now losing control of their internal politics, no thanks to me! 3) There is serious cause for concern when it comes to the finances of this Jamaat- where is your money going?! 4) Why did they not pull in the police? Police are called in to Tesco’s when a boy is caught stealing a can of Stella Artois, so are you telling me the police would not have been interested in a case of £400k fraud? Come on now boys and girls, where is your logic at?

Do you all still insist on paying Chanda to this system? Don’t you mind that there is a chance your loot is being looted? What about another example that this Jamaat, at the very core, is rotten?! I remember my brother once was bragging about how transparent the Ahmadiyya Jamaat is compared to beardos in Birmingham Muslim organisations...LOL...this one's for him to reflect upon! The Ahmadiyya Jamaat is rotten, in ruins and is filthy and it’s high time you people start waking up to this! And you'se all better ask for an explanation, £400k is no joke, not to mention everything he managed to get away with, without them picking up on it! I don’t need to explain the document, it’s in black and white for you all to have a good read.. saved sect? LOL!

Ameers Army, there is a day you made an enemy out of me, and one day, I will explain it to you! One of you did something to me and my family which is unforgiveable and for that, you can consider this payback! You can call it hate, I call it LOVE to hate ;P and boyyyyy am I filled with LOVE right about now....  and I got a whole heap of LOVE to go around!

You are in big trouble Shabz, because your carelessness in dealing with this has meant now the whole world knows about the internal fraud of Jamaat e Ahmadiyya UK! Hopefully Mas will get rid of you now or better still, hopefully Mas will get rid of all of you east Africans and quickly too!

Hope we get an explanation, I would like to know why £400k went missing without any of you wastemen picking up on it and why the police haven’t been called in to investigate this matter further?

There is more to come, but be patient people and don’t expect something huge every Sunday, it’s about pacing and I have to pace myself! All my hits are calculated!

Next week: more kids stuff!

(sorry if it’s all over the place…I am working from my phone today and jheeez it’s been a painful task! little khuddam boy scouts...dont talk about what you dont know :P ) LONG POST I KNOW BUT I DON'T DO NOTHING IN HALVES...read a little!

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