Tuesday, 31 January 2012

The Sunday Scandal Session 14: Wife of Nasser Khan Convicted of Perjury!


Salaam!
 
This is going to be a lengthy post somewhat, so before you moan at me as many of you usually do, if you don’t want to read, please close your browser now. Close it! Oh sorry, you can't bring yourself to close it because you just can't help yourself! I got you ;)

I wasn't going to do this so soon, I planned to come back in a few months and reveal it, but there was a comment made by someone earlier on today that made me change my mind! So thank you for commenting and giving me the push to do this!

I am sure many of you will remember that some weeks back I told readers that I had something that Nasser ‘Nas’ Khan, the deputy president of the Ahmadiyya Association, would hate to see wind up on my blog. Unfortunately for Nasser Khan, but fortunately enough for my readers, I was just delaying putting it up for personal reasons and also as I wasn’t sure of the legal ramifications, I wanted to be extra cautious! However on sound legal advice, I have been told ‘my back is covered’ and now that my personal issues have been resolved, I am free to put this up! Yippee-ki-yay! I had it the whole time! Ahmadis: understand if I say I have something, I have it! That includes a few things that will finish a few officials in your Jamaat but all in good time my friends, all in good time! There is a pattern to my madness! Read carefully and try and figure me out! You might even be able to figure out my identity if you really concentrate!

Fozia, this hasn’t been an easy decision for me to upload this. However, on careful thought and much deliberation, I know this is the right thing to do and it is the best thing to do. I know it’s not nice, but then what happens to people when their kids get kicked out of your Cult for marrying Muslims isn’t nice either. Sorry Fozia, you never had to quite deal with that did you, because your husband’s position meant your son was freely able to marry without your family suffering the consequences. The same cannot be said for many of the innocent Ahmadis who are left hurt, humiliated and cut off from their families! If you throw mud, I will throw mud back at you, on behalf of all those you have hurt and humiliated. You and your husband knowingly and willingly participate in this Cult and for that, I believe you should also be held to account! Cult Officials it seems that the tables are now turning. They call it ‘Power to the People’, don’t they? I feel a bit like Tina Turner all of a sudden! Oooh!

Anyway let us get stuck in! Late last year, I was told by various Ahmadis that Fozia ‘Fozzy Bear’ Khan was charged and convicted of perjury (lying on oath). This information was told to various individuals by the Khans’ themselves and once I had been told, I made it my mission to get the proof, as its NEVER enough just to tell you Ahmadis and expect you to believe it. Funny that, because you happily believe this jargon: 

"Just as the Aryan people are awaiting the coming of Shri Krishna.  I am the same Krishna, and this claim is not only mine but God repeatedly revealed to me that I am the same Krishna, the King of the Aryans to come in the last days of the World."
(Haqiqat-ul-Wahi, Page 45, Mirza Ghulam Qadiani)

You are easy to fool when it comes to your faith but when it comes to ‘gossip’ you people expect the proof! Logic? Anyone?

Here is the crack:
  • In the early part of 2010, Fozia Khan’s BMW was caught speeding in Kingston Upon Thames. No big deal, it happens all the time.
  • Instead of straight points on her licence, Fozia Khan was given the opportunity to attend something known as a ‘Drivers Awareness Course’. She accepted, as it meant she could avoid her licence being laced with points. This was in late 2010. Fozia went ahead and accepted the opportunity.
  • Whilst on the course, Fozia Khan let on to those who were on the course with her that in actual fact, it was not she who was behind the wheel but rather, it was her husband, none other than Nasser ‘Nas’ Khan- Naib Amir of the United Kingdom.
  • This boastful remark was overheard by the course tutors, who demanded that she leave the course. Those that overheard gave witness statements, wherein they gave individuals accounts of what Fozia had said.
  • In November 2010, Fozia and Nasser Khan were interviewed under caution at Bromley Police Station. Fozia was being questioned for perjury. The police officers in charge of her case did not buy her sob story (something stupid like she was confused and joking and didn’t actually mean what the tutor had overheard) and charged her with perjury, and was bailed, pending court appearance.
  • In March 2011, Fozia appeared before Bromley Magistrates Court (in Outer London) to answer charges of Perjury.
  • She was finally convicted in August 2011.

Here's the proof you need, in the form of an official police charge sheet:

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She was formally convicted sometime later. Please call Bromley Magistrates Listings for official confirmation! You have all the relevant dates and necessary details in the charge sheet! For more information on how to get in touch with the courts, please click here.

For those of you who want it spelled out for you, Fozia Khan was charged and convicted under section 2(1) of the Perjury Act 1911:

2 False statements on oath made otherwise than in a judicial proceeding. 
If any person— 
(1)being required or authorised by law to make any statement on oath for any purpose, and being lawfully sworn (otherwise than in a judicial proceeding) wilfully makes a statement which is material for that purpose and which he knows to be false or does not believe to be true.

Now, before you Ahmadis try to spin this and/or tuck it under the carpet, this is a VERY serious offence. I'd like to remind you of a very similar case that is a hot topic in the news right now. It involves Eastleigh MP Chris Huhne and his ex-wife. It's alleged that he got his ex-wife to lie on his behalf and say she was driving in order for him to avoid points on his license for speeding. Notice any similarities? The CPS are coming to a decision soon to charge Chris Huhne. If he is charged then it's very likely he'll have to step down. Now, why is it that MPs in this country do the decent thing and step aside when their position is compromised, yet Top Officials in the Jamaat get away with it time and time again? You should also take note that MPs are working for a man-made government, while Nasser Khan and co. are working for a 'Divine Jamaat'. Don't you think that the standards he should be held to should be far higher? Food for thought maybe? 

So to all those Ahmadis who said I was a liar, well your leaders are the convicted liars. You wanted proof and I have given you proof but what are you going do with it???? Let me take a few wild guesses….
  • You are going to dismiss it and say ‘oh well it's no big deal it's not as if anyone's been murdered’.
  • You might ask yourself why people with no integrity and no regard for truthfulness or honesty are given positions of authority and feel that they've got the right to strut their stuff at Jamaat functions. These are the same people who are invited to the round table functions, are authorised to handle millions of pounds and also stand by watching people expelled left, right and centre, knowing full well they have skeletons in their closets. However, you won’t do anything about it and will try to defend them.
  • You will ask yourself why does Rafiq Hayat and your Khalifa keep giving these positions to such dishonest people. Her husband is Deputy Amir, Officer in Charge of Jalsa and is also in charge of Jamaat property development. However, you won’t do anything about it. 
  • Or, more than likely, you will comment and say ‘Findings you've made this up and we want more proof as you are an expert in Photoshopping. LOL! If that makes you feel better! Take it out on me why don’t you, just because you can’t accept your top officials aren’t what they seem!

    Let me remind you before you decide what option to go with, that when in the past I have spoken out against the hypocrisy, favouritism and against the system of excommunications within the Jamaat, countless of you reminded me that it was fair and fine to expel people if they were guilty of wrong doing! Now choose carefully, should you choose from this list at all!

    Here we have 'True Islam' representatives and audehdhars (administrative officials) convicted of perjury. To those who need it spelt out LYING even under oath - that's True Islam is it? What did Mirza Ghulam Qadiani, your so called ‘Promised Messiah’ say about lying? I will not remind you, as I am sure all you Ahmadis have read most of his books! Shabaash!

    SO Fozia Convicted Khan, do you think you are the right person to give premarital advice and counselling to young girls so that their Nikah's can be read by the jamaat. Are you ???? 

    SO Fozia Convicted Khan, what sort of advice will you be giving your young Ahmadi girls?? It's OK to lie? It's OK if you flirt with guys as long as your husband doesn’t know? It's OK to be dishonest and then turn up in the jamaat doing 'full purdah'. It's OK as long as you don't get caught… because don't worry girls, we are the True Muslims of the True Islam ???? 

    SO Fozia Convicted Khan, with your track record do you feel that you are the right person to give advice to anyone? After all your family and your son partook in a fake conversion of a young single mother, then you and your equally fraudulent husband went to Huzoor and asked for permission for him to get married coz she's 'CONverting' and now your son's divorced her and left her a single mother. You're a bunch of CONS aren't you ???

    And Nas Khan, don’t even get me started on you…! You should be called the Con rather than the Khan family. 

    Just your antics alone have made your beloved Huzoor look like the biggest FOOL around for all the positions he's being advised to give you and your husband. And this advisor who Huzoor listens to so readily is none other than Rafiq Hayat! Rafiq Hayat I am now going to be watching you very carefully. This is now in black and white for the world to see. Your co-worker and partner in crime, Nasser Khan, is married to a convict! Nasser Khan, working for the Divine Nizaam, let his convicted wife lie on his behalf! How very pious and noble of him! You allowed for Shabir Bhatti’s brother to have sanctions slapped on him because he disagreed with a Qadha Board decision so now what are YOU going to do now there is hard proof the wife of your closest aide broke the law and lied on oath?? And the fact this man continues to hold top positions knowing full well his wife is a convict? He couldn’t possibly do the right thing and stand down now, could he? No, because he is far too proud and arrogant to do that! Are you going to keep him and his Mrs in the Jamaat, just like you didn’t keep the brother of Shabir Bhatti and his wife and young son in? I hope you play fair! I am looking forward to the circular with her name on it, announcing that she is now under sanctions!

    To the readers who keep demanding the evidence, now is the time to stop questioning me and start questioning your leadership. There was a reason I had to backtrack on my promise to expose Fozzy Bear, reasons that I cannot disclose here. However, I thought if I exposed this, there would be two things you might walk away with: 1) that I am serious and I mean business! If I say I have something, you best believe it! I have no reason to lie. So all you TOP UK officials with skeletons in your closet, you best start worrying! ;) 2) I am NOT your enemy but the Jamaat is. These are the liars, the hypocrites and the bigots. Come on, now is the time to question this so called ‘Allah’s Jamaat’! Everything is here for you in black and white! We have hypocrites, liars, frauds, spies and an Amir who very openly, in the name of business, committed Shirk (something Allah NEVER forgives…). This is all going on under the nose of your divine Khalifa leading this divine community. And to top it off, your Messiah doesn’t fulfil any of the criteria, is a proven liar (accept it or deny it, facts speak volumes). Besides from the community ties, what exactly is this so called religion good for? 

    This is not Allah’s Jamaat, this is a Mirza Made Jamaat. It’s only a matter of time before it crumbles... insha'Allah! In Allah’s Jamaat, hypocrisy wouldn’t be so rife and this hypocrisy is something your Khalifa is well aware of. Ahmadis believe they are here to perform ‘Jihad of the Pen’ well did you know that the Holy Prophet SAAWs (who you people claim to be the true followers of) said that "The greatest jihad is to speak a word of truth in the face of a tyrant"!

    Your leaders are social tyrants! Now put your pens down for moment because I know all you Ahmadis are very busy fighting Jihad out there against goodness knows who or what, and stand up and tell your leaders to fix up! Do not be scared! What is the worst they can do? Give you a telling off? There are my brothers and sisters out there being killed in Syria for standing up against injustice! You people are well aware that your Jamaat is riddled with corruption and hypocrisy yet choose to do nothing about it? True Muslims stand up against injustice! 

    Think. Question your Nizaam! Question your Khalifa! Question your Messiah! Question your religion! Surely if Mirza Masroor ‘Mas’ Ahmad was the real McCoy and was Allah’s Khalifa, then hypocrisy and injustice wouldn’t be so rife within your Jamaat would it now? Hypocrisy isn’t just allowing a certain set of people to get away with some things, while others are led to the slaughter house! It is about practising what you preach too! Mirza Masroor for example is constantly telling Ahmadis to lead simple lives and steer clear of material goods, yet he is chauffeur driven in a Mercdes S Class! What does Islam (original Islam before your Messiah) say about hypocrisy? 

    "Verily, the hypocrites will be in the lowest depth (grade) of the Fire; no helper will you find for them." (al-Nisaa' 4:145)

    "Most hateful it is with Allah that you say that which you do not do." (al- Saff 61:3)

    "Enjoin you Al-Birr (piety and righteousness and each and every act of obedience to Allah) on the people and you forget (to practise it) yourselves, while you recite the Scripture! Have you then no sense?" (al- Baqarah 2:44)

    "And when you look at them, their bodies please you; and when they speak, you listen to their words. They are as blocks of wood propped up. They think that every cry is against them. They are the enemies, so beware of them. May Allah curse them! How are they denying (or deviating from) the Right Path?" (al-Munaafiqoon 63:4)

      It's question time and is the perfect time to start firing question after question at your leadership and demand some answers. I am not saying it's going to change anything but you have to remember one thing, if you have no choice but to remain and Ahmadi or for whatever strange reason, the claims of your alleged Messiah satisfy your spiritual needs then remember it is up to you to call for change! If you believe yourself to be Muslim, then you would do well to remember this Hadith:
      Allah does not punish the individuals for the sins of the community until they see the evil spreading among themselves, and while they have the power to stop it, do not do so." (Ahmad)

       And Rafiq et al, as you claim to be Muslim, then this should also apply to you: 
      Allah's Messenger SAAWs said, "If any ruler having the authority to rule Muslim subjects dies while he is deceiving them, Allah will forbid Paradise for him." (Bukhari)
      I heard the Prophet (saaws) saying, "Any man whom Allah has given the authority of ruling some people and he does not look after them in an honest manner, will never feel even the smell of Paradise." (Muslim)

      If you are a Muslim as you claim and not just an ordinary Muslim, you claim to be the true Momins and the followers of the True Islam, then you will do good to remember these Ahadith!

      Let us see what happens now they have this to hand! I am certain nothing will get done about it because they will of course say that she has already been punished by the courts so there is no point punishing her again! Hope you Ahmadis are OK with that? If so, why so? And if not, then why not?

      Rafiiq you know what to do!
      1) Get rid of Nasser Khan and remove him from EVERY SINGLE POSITION he holds in your Jamaat. That includes any invovlement he has with Jamaat property portfolios, including the latest planning for the extension of Fazal Centre HQ in Putney. Get rid of him and while you are doing that, please follow him out of the door! I sincerely mean that!

      2) Sanctions against Fozia as of immediate effect. You do not need an explanation from her, she is a convicted liar-END OF! If you can threaten a young women with expulsion because she modelled for an asian bridal company and if you allowed Shabir Bhatti to abuse his power and have his own brother humiliated in front of the Jamaat, then you most certainly will act on this. Remove her from her position as Marriage Counsellor for the Jamaat TODAY. No ifs and No buts. You play fair now! Don't you dare try and bury your heads in the sand with this one!
      If you don't comply with what I ask of you, then well, I guess you like to play dangerously!

      PS: Do you expect to see Nasser Khan stand down and no longer hold any position in the Jamaat? Let me know! There is a new poll up! Be sure to participate!

      245 comments:

      1. Perjury is indeed a serious offense as it is the backbone of justice, imagine if there was no punishment for it. her husband should also have been charged with Conspiracy to pervert the Course of Justice.

        Geoffery Archer amongst others have been sent to Prison for it, she is lucky, and If your seniors let this go as if nothing happened, then you have proved it is one rule for some and another for mere mortals

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      2. Good work..... Must be tired so go to sleep and rest your tiny naughty soul now . You like failing..... Shaitan is happy with you for wasting peoples time!!!

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        1. They have already put their blindfolds on I see! May Allah help you oh lost soul!

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        2. Shaitan must also be very happy with Nasser and Fozia! Who is the convicted liar here? Me or Fozia? ENOUGH SAID! Wake up and realise what the truth about your seedy leadership!

          Ive done what I can for now.... over n out.

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      3. Findings you are something else!!!! MashALLAH may Allah swt reward all your efforts in exposing these crooks! @ 9.31pm is right! Perjury isn't just any old offense! Bill Clinton was even on trial for something similar there of! LYING on oath is a very serious crime and if found guilty you cannot escape punishment! None of this community order claptrap or suspended sentence, you will be convicted and have a criminal record as a result!

        Ahmadis should really start to question themselves and their leadership. I am shocked so far that many of you have dismissed what the sister has uploaded in the past as nothing. really upsetting but still ok. I am anxious to see the response for this!

        Nasser Khan must go and so should that cabinet.

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      4. OUCH! You are good Cult Girl, I have to give you that. Ouch.

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      5. didn't mirza say 'to lie is like eating shit' ???

        so did fozia just have a shit burger with extra ketchup?

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        1. try telling that to the blind ahmadi! people lie all the time but not when their husband is 3rd in command to the Khalifa almost! not true muslims! lol. Mirza needs to come back and sort these people out!

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        2. hahahha that's really funny. I think Fozia and her naib amir husband eat double mcshit burgers on a regular basis, with their family friends raffy boy and co.

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        3. i'm alone astonished a 'prophet' or whatever else these cultists describe him to be even uses such dirty language!

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        4. You made me laugh in office. Ajeeb

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        5. " dirty language!"

          if you think 'to lie is like eating shit' is dirty language then you have not read Mr Mirza.

          Go through http://www.ahmadibeliefs.com/jesus and http://www.ahmadibeliefs.com/christianity - read 3rd point on christianity and you would just be shocked

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      6. Wow!! You are on one Cult Girl!! Proud of you!! Nas should be sacked, Raf should be sacked and Mas needs to expel himself! Come to Islam for crying out loud Ahmadis! If your officials are like this, there is no hope for the rest of you and your children! Get out and come to Islam and give your children a true religion! Please!

        You keep on now Cult Girl! You have actually pulled the rug from under their feet! Kudos to you!! This will not end well for any of those officials!

        Kudos Kult Gal!

        From a ex Qadiani now Muslim.

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        1. Thumbs Up on my behalf too Sister! I hope you are able to make a difference for the love of your family!

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      7. I think if they stay put, then the common Ahmadi will become very, very frustrated indeed! Nasser Khan I think your wife may be the reason people are pushed towards Islam! God Willing of course! I think he should stay so I have voted 'No'. He should stay and the world should be made aware of the foul stench of hypocrisy!

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      8. tbh it shouldnt have even come this far! the 400k fraud fiasco should have finished the current office but unfortunately Ahmadis don't seem to mind. this will also amount to nothing. they are hypocrites and they know it. they dont need to be told. nice try though. i have a lot of respect for your work. great style of engaging with the audience. you have a gift!

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      9. Fozzy Poo Bear is probably going to be so embarrassed by all of this! You know in our desi culture the women are shy around the husband's friends? Well Fozia has gone and slapped them all in their tuqlas with this one! Fozia Poor Bear has just caused her Master Raf and his Elve Mas huge embarrassment! This is freakin' hilarious! LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL.

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      10. Ahh Findings you don't need them to 'alan' or announce her perjury in meetings! More Ahmadis tune into your Blog than they attend meetings ;) GET OUT NASSER KHAN AND PUT THE JAMAAT PURSE DOWN! LYING FOZIA!

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        1. Hi Cult Girl you rock. me and my mates are all reading this. Jamaat audhedhars are complete ********** liars. Keep exposing them.

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      11. Bloomin' Marveloso! You deserve a massive pat on the back! Have you ever considered taking up private detective work as a career? honestly, you would be brilliant! Just be sure it is not Muslims you are spying on. You have a lot of potential to be something real big in this world. I predict one day you will be something and we will all know about it! Female version of Shahid? Suleiman Ghani? Sohail Bawa? Farhan Khan? There is something about you. I think you are going to make changes around here. May many others follow you to Islam!

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      12. FYI for the record, I am still looking forward to you publishing the Jamaat 'hate crime' dossier on Khatam Nubuwat Academy. You gave us a snippet but we are still waiting! Take your time.

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      13. Tooba Tooba. It's fake N and F are innocent . It's a conspiracy against them. N is future Chief

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      14. This is funny, do you really think Ahmadis care about someone's wife and what they get up to? Will this effect her husband's position in jamaat?

        Answer... No

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      15. @AnonymousJan 31, 2012 01:15 AM


        Why is the "Answer No",

        by this you elude that all genuine Ahmadies, or to use your words "real" Ahmadies lie as a matter of course.

        Thats the trouble , nothing Findings puts up will change your mind. Thats because its your default position is that of a brain washed person.
        Your in a cult. It is inward looking and creates its own reality, which you choose to see.
        Open you eyes, heart and mind.
        Embrace Islam.

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        1. New Sunni Convert to Ahamdiyyat the true Islam31 January 2012 at 11:00

          I don't see the BIG deal. She lied and made a big mistake she got caught and was punished for it by the law of the land. We are all human and make mistakes big ones small ones every day. The more important thing I hope is that she has repented and asked forgiveness from Allah that she will not do such a thing again.

          One thing I am not clear on if it was Naser Khan driving and he allegedely put his wife upto this a la Chris Huhne why wasn't he charged with anything???

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        2. @ sunni convert - that's just it you can't see. You can't see the lies, the hypocrisy, the double standards, no accountability of the admin team of Rafiq Hayat. you need to open your eyes and your minds but you don't want to.
          you should be proud of your self you are a truly are brainwashed.

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        3. "Your in a cult. It is inward looking and creates its own reality, which you choose to see."

          This is you, not Ahmadis. This is what you do no realise.

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      16. Change my mind about people in jamaat? Administration? What's that got to do with being 'brain washed'?

        What Findings puts up highlights areas in admin that need to be improved within jamaat , I will NOT deny that. But that is all that will come of it.

        It will not have any impact on the beliefs of an Ahmadi as to whether Ahmadiyyat is fake or not. Your arguments are just not strong enough. You want us to leave Ahmadiyyat for your version of Islam which I have studied too. There is no comparison. Your beliefs are laughable.

        Open your eyes, heart and mind and accept that no other sect in Islam comes close to Ahmadiyyat with rational and logical arguments. This is the real reason why you love engaging in discussion with Ahmadis because no other sects have arguments like us. End of.

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        1. Typical brainwashed Qadiani. Read again what your own Prophet said about liars. Why do qadianis always ignore their own prophet? That's what is most laughable.

          And what arguments do you exactly have? You have yet to show us the sahih ahadith that prophesy the coming of the Masih in the 14th century. That's what Mirza said, black on white.

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        2. Well if you quadianis claim that this is Allah's jamaat and the saved sect than there should of been no corruption or hypocrisy at all, it should of been a perfect jamaat after all you do say it's Allah's jamaat. The Holy Quran is from Allah (swt) the perfect book given to us without any contradictions and so should of your jamaat been the same.

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        3. So the jamaats in the time of other caliphs were perfect were they? You think the admin then was perfect too was it? Of course not. Who says there will be no corruption in humans when even the Promised Messiah (as) has said their will be a time when this will happen in his own jamaat?


          Yes the Holy Quran is the perfect book but what is written about perfection in the Quran about humans? Is there such a thing?

          I started conversation regarding the return of the Messiah in the 14th Century with Findings once but she didn't sound interested and deleted my comment as it probably went way over her head.

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      17. These girl obsessed hailers are funny little idiots who dont have clue what Islam is . Keep each other busy by scraching each ither,s backs. Lage rahe ......aye findings ! Koi kum ve karya ker. Handi banani sikh le shudaine ! Suss koloon chatta patain gi kurrye meri gull munn.

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        1. She aint a kuri....

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        2. She/He/It has got you all fooled. whoever findings is kuree/ kuraa/ khusra who cares - let's look at what's been put up here by the mysterious findings.
          Oi Nas - you need to change your pants again you didn't smell too good this morning.

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      18. If standard are to be kept high; so would be the rules...Let’s see what needful is done by Amir Rafiq Hayat. Ball is in his court. Hopefully he strikes the just cord.

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      19. From one Ahmadi to another aren't one of the conditions of bait not to lie and deceive ? Didn't Hmga say that any one who doesn't abide by this is not from my jamaat?
        Perjury is LYING under oath, it's a crime and against the law of the land. So Rafiq Hayat has no option but to take action. This is in black and White with proof and evidence that most Ahmadis usually ask for. So Amir sahib what you gonna do. You punish non audedhars for lesser offences what are you gonna do here? Are you going to protect your best mate. Or do the right thing.
        Ahmadis reading this watch this space. This is now out in the open for everyone to see.

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        1. After all his lies and deceit you are still willing to believe this findings person??

          Don’t believe what you read here. Have faith in Ahmadiyyat. If you are that concerned then just pray for Respected Naib Amir Sahib and his wife.

          Have a read of the following verses from the Holy Quran and if you understand them then say a prayer for Findgings too.

          Those who love (to see) scandal published (and) broadcast among the Believers will have a grievous Penalty in this life and in the Hereafter: Allah knows and ye know not. (Quran, 19-24)

          O you who believe! Avoid much suspicions, indeed some suspicions are sins. And spy not, neither backbite one another. Would one of you like to eat the flesh of his dead brother? You would hate it (so hate backbiting). And fear Allâh. Verily, Allâh is the One Who accepts repentance, Most Merciful. (Quran, 49:12)


          Shahabe Saqib

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        2. @ ss, mate put on your glasses - it's in black and white, and it's an official document .
          It's got nothing to do with suspicion it's actual fact. The Naib Amirs wife has been found guilty of Perjury.
          Read it again otherwise you can call the given numbers to confirm it.

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        3. Hey ss one more thing - forward these ayaas to your nizaam. ggod boy quickly coz they do all of these things themselves. hurry now.

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        4. @ 05:42 AM (really???)

          The verses still stand. This is no doubt a scandal (black and white is irrelevant) and it is not up to Findings to publish it yet he did...! And its published here where some of the visitors (obviously Ahmadis only) are believers. The second verse is also true... this whole things is the result of spying...! or is it not???

          You have no leg to stand on.

          And PUT YOUR GLASSES ON and look up the definition of scandal.

          Shahabe Saqib

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      20. Rafiq are you going to protect your friends from action again? doesn't that make you a hypocrite

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      21. Fozia Khan is the jamaat appointed (unqualified in every way) marriage councillor who without attending a session with her you can not have your nikah read by the jamaat. Is this true?
        This women is supposed to be counselling your daughter and mine - are you happy with that because I'm not having liars and hypocrites preach to any child of mine.

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        1. She is not the only one, there are others too. And all councillors are required to stick the script which is provided to them by the Jamaat. Now chill and send your kids for counselling, one day they will be grateful that they did.

          If only marriage councelling was around in the days when Shahid Kamal got married...

          Shahabe Saqib

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        2. Fozia Khan the convicted perjurer has nor right to counsel anyone. this women should perhaps focus on her own kids including the awaara Kamran Khan her son who 'con'verted his girlfriend only to divorce her and leave her a single mother.
          What do you say to that ss

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        3. @ 06:00 AM

          Stop your lies....she was already a single mother. If a man marries a single mother it is normally considered a noble act but obviously PEOPLE LIKE YOU would like nothing better to paint everyone with the same brush you are painted with.

          Grow up.

          Shahabe Saqib

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        4. mate you need to calm down, have my comments hit a raw nerve? the only one who's guilty of lying here, the proof is here for all to see is your precious Fozia Khan. Read the docs.
          Now to marry a single mother is indeed noble, then why did he divorce her? is that a noble act took?
          Is it noble to have a girlfriend?
          Is it noble to have marital relations with that girlfriend before marriage?
          is it noble to then ask to convert someone so you can marry them only to divorce them a couple of years later?
          Me - I ain't a single parent nor divorced nor married to a 'con'vert, nor am I a convict, thank God Almighty, get it.
          So people like YOU should stop accusing people without facts. Look at the facts above and tell me who's the LIAR?

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        5. @ 07:52 AM

          No raw nerve pal! Just don't like innocent people victimized.

          So you agree that marrying a single mother is a noble act! If he divorces her then its more of a reflection on her than him. They say one word to a wise man. Obviously for you I will have to write an essay.

          Re your claims about martial relations with girlfriends, I assume you are talking about Kamran. Can you please bring a witness, if not SHUT YOUR FILTHY MOUTH.

          Shahabe Saqib

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        6. Temper temper, I have hit a raw nerve. Yep the comments are about that awaaara. I can bring you a witness. Kamran khan himself, he's often spoken about his conquests yes pal there have been more than one. His ex was just one of them. So come on pal who's the filthy one.
          This is more topic diversion deal with his ma's perjury

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      22. well well well, next time there is a VIP dinner held for politicians by the AMA they should invite Chris Huhne; Nasser Khan can sit next to him and compare notes.

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      23. hahahahahahahahah And all this is going on under you Khalifa's nose. ooooops your Divinely appointed Khalifa. Has he got eyes or ears or even any braincells ....? hahahahahahahaaaa
        This is your version 'TRUE ISLAM' jokers or what

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        1. So did Hazrat Ali (RA) knew about those Muslims who were called Kharjis and in the end one of them martyred Hazrat Ali...or did He (RA) not know?

          The bigger questions is why did Hazrat Ali (RA), after being struck with the poisonous sword of a Kharije, instruct his Son that if He (RA) lives then the Kharije should be pardoned...and if He (RA) dies from the wounds then the Kharije should only be punished with one strike of sword just like the Kharijee had dont to Hazrat Ali (RA)

          Shahabe Saqib

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        2. Dont ask me ask your khalifa to have a question answer session he'll be able to answer you - oh yeah he doesn't do any.
          This thread is about perjury so stick to that if u can.

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        3. @ SS This is not about Hadhrat Ali RA these are the words of Hadhrat Umar RA about Firoz Abu Lulu
          This shows the knowledge of Ahmadi about Islam.
          You lot are stupid of all, I dislike all Muslims who beleive in any Messiah New or old.
          No prophet After the Holy Prophet SAAW and that is final.
          One other thing I have spent years working in the PS office and close to Jamaat and boy dont make me talk.
          I am glad that I only beleive in Allah SWAT The Holy Prophet SAAW and the Holy Quran.
          Ahmadis are the worst enemy of Islam, from the word go.
          To all those who are waiting for Isa AS he is not coming, for those who beleive in MGA he was no replacemnet of Isa AS.
          Religion was completed as stated in the Holy Quran, think why a completed religion need reform or further guidance or is Allah SWAT was mistaken (Not possible).

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      24. Raf is going to get special dispensation from Huzoor for his friend Nas so he can get away with these actions you just watch. No action will be taken against these liars, and this makes this Huzoor is look like a complete fool. Just watch fellow Ahmadis- no action on these guys.

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      25. For these people lying comes naturally and is a bodily function that is as natural as going to the loo. For want of a better word manure comes out of their holes on a regular basis. They don't think lying is an offence.

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      26. New Sunni Convert to Islam Ahmadiyyat the true Islam31 January 2012 at 14:45

        Unfortunately the argumentation here is sub standard and your basic News of the World Journalist Findings is spinning like a top. This lady told a lie and was caught and punished end of story. I don't think she has justified it or said it was ok. She committed a sin like every other Muslim on the face of the earth and she received her just dues from the law and will do from Allah in the next life, he may choose to forgive her that's upto Allah.

        If we take this argument one step further then a Christian would be quite right in pointing out that Islam cannot possibly be the divine and true religion as so many muslims are liars and thieves and rapists:
        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2090042/Feltham-youth-jail-A-inmates-Muslims-large-numbers-convert-better-food.html

        The stories are abound of Muslim gangs who prey on young white women, does that somehow make Islam false????

        You guys need to get your heads out of the clouds and provide some real arguments why someone should leave the Jamaat not just

        "there are some naughty people in the jamaat" well there are a lot worse Muslims just round thecorner in Findings new crew are we suppose to join them??

        You guys are having a laugh right???

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        1. @ 06:45 am Well said.

          And to Findings and Co. Next time you mistakenly eat dodgy food and end up with an upset stomach, be sure to curse your stomach.

          Good luck with the plot.

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        2. You guys are having a laugh right??? anon @ 6:45 AM

          Yeah we're havin a laugh at your Khalifa who Divinely appointed
          Mr and Mrs Crook Khan.

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      27. New Sunni Convert to Islam Ahmadiyyat the true Islam31 January 2012 at 14:47

        There is not a single Muslim who has not lied in his life yet the hypocrisy shown here is unbelievable

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        1. Watch your self, When include all Muslims it starts from The Holy Prophet SAAW. Just because you turned to stupid cult do not speak of Islam or Muslims.

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      28. I really didnt want to comment on this but you people cleverly or in simplicity keep relating indvidual acts to The Truth of Faith!!!!!!!? So...
        Ist of all this document is one side storey so I would,nt waste my time on that but I will take on the cry behind it.
        1-Hadrat Usman (RA) was Khalifa e Rashid, Most handsome among men ,Generous ,Son in Law of The Prophet (SAW) and so many achievements in his time but
        I will advise you to go and read what people ( muslims) started doing in his last few years ?what were allegations ? How did they see his governors and appointees? Etc
        And which led it to Hadrat Usman,s (RA) Shahadah .And what happened afterwards probabaly never stoped and countless Muslim lives were lost.
        So what is questionable here
        His Khilafah Nauzubillah Big No
        Islam itself Big No
        His governess Big no as Only Prophets are innocent but others always need improvement .(accept individuals where Khalifa decides in svere situation).
        The only QUESTIONABLE was the attitude of those people who started conspiracies for different reasons some were sacked out, some were not given requested positions , some were hypocrites and some were jealous , and also outer enemies were at a hunt . Etc
        But just go and read the full story and you people will find yourself close to the rebels of that time and their attitude similar to you .So that is Jamat confronting in the wholeworld from inner and outer enemies and you on this blog are a SMALL VERSION of this game but REMEMBER that this Khilafat is continuation of Khilafat e Rashida and we have learnt now and we make sure that Enemies, Rebels and hypocrtes around the world are (peacefull) defeated as they were Ultimately at the Time of Khilaft e Rashida (Awwal) in a way which was required the that time.
        And it seems that there are Very few hypocrite and ignorant Ahmadis on this blog who aparently are having funn Unless it isnt a disguise.They should Fear Allah and analyse yourself. It is not fun. Stay away and pray for these people who need our prayers and Guidance.
        And by the way There is no comparison or alternative in the whole world of this BEAUTIFUL NIZAM E JAMAT.
        Prayers and Salam

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        1. There is no comparison between the Islam and Ahmadiyyat, Islam is ture and Ahmadiyyat is made by people.
          Nizam E Jamaat is a joke, when a Khalifa or MGA starte altering the orders of the Holy Quran and The Holy Prophet SAAW you should know it is false what ever reason as there is no change in the word of Allah SWAT.

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        2. @ 9.17 pm
          That is true that there is no comparison because AHMADIYYAT IS CONTINUATION OF TRUE ISLAM . So what happened in early days is happening now.
          You have tried and still are to humilate Islamic Teachings but Dont worry , Imam Mehdi's Jamat is there to correct it. And Present The Beautiful and actual side of Islam.
          Peace

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        3. @SC how are you concluding what happend in the early days is happening now, Khalifa making a rule against the Quranic teaching is true Islam?
          Strange logic, you are not even close to Islam, there is no such thing as Imam Mahdi, it is a claim by Kharjiets just like Jesus returning is a claim by Christians.
          How stupid are those who believe in anything other than The Holy Quran.
          Sad to see that you left Islam for something which is closest form of Idol worship.

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      29. Sunni convert you are sooooooooo deluded. Continue to Live in your ignorance, this so called beautiful nizam e jamaat is being exposed for its hypocrisies. Shame on you for trying to deny what is written in front of you. But you can not change coz your heart is sealed and maybe one day Allah ta'ala may grant you hidayaa and open your eyes and mind. Until then you should continue your subservience to your beautiful Nizaam. Don't let common sense divert you.

        Findings there's a lot of topic diversion going on here don't you think. The topic of the day is about the Naib Ameers wife perjury.

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      30. LOL! The topic diversion is EXACTLY what I expected! The proof is there for all to see that Fozia Khan is a convicted LIAR. So all what these deluded Ahmadis can do is divert, divert divert.

        Ahmadis, if you accept that Fozia Khan is a liar (who lied on her husband's behalf no less) wouldn't you want to see action taken? Just like action was taken against countless Ahmadis for a lot less?

        The smell of hypocrisy in your Jamaat is foul. It really is time for you to stand up and expect more from the leaders of this so-called 'Divine Jamaat', don't you think?

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        1. Action will be taken by God, who are we to do anything. Was this the biggest scandal you had? Shame you won't be getting any more.

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        2. @ 08:04 am

          There is no room in Islam to "Stand up and expect more from the leaders" You obey the Amirs or those among you who have authority. End of.
          (So this applies to spiritual and worldly affairs - hence we Ahmadis perform bait on our Khalifa's hand and we are loyal citizens of whichever country we live in)

          If you are unhappy with the leadership or has seen something unislamic then you are required to pray to the Almighty God for His blessings and mercy for the oppressors and the oppressed. (Not create mischief by creating some blog or brake data protection acts and steel people's email addresses or sends ludicrous letters to people)

          This rebellious attitude is not new. All the Khulafa-e-Rashideen suffered from this. All the Khulafa-e-Messiah suffered from this. All the Prophets suffered from this. Why??? because that is what Iblis does...it rebels

          Behold! We said to the angels: “Prostrate unto Adam”: They prostrated except Iblis (Satan): He said, “Shall I prostrate to one whom Thou didst create from clay?” He said: “Seest Thou? This is the one whom Thou hast honoured above me! If Thou wilt but respite me to the Day of Judgment, I will surely bring his descendants under my sway – all but a few!” (17: 61–62)

          Shahabe Saqib

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        3. SS dont compare the Khulfa e Rashdin to your system. People questioned every thing, from asking how Hadhrat Umar RA got the cloth to a judge refusing to accept witness from Imam Hassan and Husain in favour of Hadhrat Ali RA.
          Dont ever compare your lie with the Holy Prophet SAAW religion.
          In Salat it is not like what MGA described but you see and feel the presence of Allah SWAT and the purity of the Holy Prophet SAAW.

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      31. New Sunni Convert To Ahmadiyyat the true isalm31 January 2012 at 16:37

        This is EXACTLY what I expected. As soon as Findings is called on her gossiping bullcrap she jumps up and down and yells diversion. Yes she is a convicted Liar (is that worse than a normal Liar in Islam???) AND???? She messed up and got convicted and punished. Is there more to this??? No nothing at all I hear you say. Why are you jumping up and down then?? Ah yes the old she is getting special treatment canard. How so ?? Could you name all the Ahmadis who have been kicked out for having convictions. I know one in my Jamaat who even went to prison he hasn't been kicked out or even sanctioned and he isn't anyone special. BTW what does one person comitting a sin which you have committed as well prove?? Thats right nilch nada nothing. Please go back to your minions and come up with something a little more convincing instead of this. You are making a pratt out of yourself (for a change)

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        1. Lying under oath is a MAJOR sin, so yes it is worse than a normal liar

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      32. I cant believe this...... Please have an intelectual approach and broader sense of understanding then think what I myself and my other Newconvert brother has tried to convey . Your issue is addressed there which you dont seem to be sensing.
        Acha theek hai . You want to discuss one individual .
        Let us assume she/he is guilty then ????
        There is a procedure of Nizam e Jamat and I wouldnt poke my nose in it . If it or anything like this goes to Nizam and whatever decision is ultimately taken by The Khalifa Of Time .I will not think for one second and accept and obey INSHA,ALLAH. That is not because I am blind.... Ignorant or hypocrate that is because I understand the IMPORTANCE OF KHILAFAT and I have it now and for what world has been crying is crying but dont seem to reckognising unfortunately but the one who are they are @ PEACE.
        And this is how we obey Allah by obeying His Khalifa.
        Wassalam

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        1. Please don't speak on behalf of all Ahmadies because we don't all share your attitude.

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        2. I am just saying my opinion brother where did you go wrong to assess this .
          However if you are differing in Obeying Khilafat and you have any other way out then either your are pretending to be an Ahmadi or you need to refresh your believe. Go and ask yourself why you are an Ahmadi!

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        3. Sunni convert As a Muslim and a human being living in a democratic country, I have every right to express my views, opinions and observations. Being an Ahmadi means I have accepted the Imam Mahdi.
          Who are you to preach to me and question my belief. If I think something is wrong why should I say it is right? If you have sold your intellect and sense of reason then that is a matter for you to deal with. Its your problem not mine.
          Stick to the issue at hand and that is perjury by the Naib Ameers wife.

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        4. Sunni Convert 10:35
          You're English language is not very good.

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        5. Because he was born into it? Like 99.9% of all other Ahmadis.

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        6. Ansari_mowghlis_uncle2 February 2012 at 06:11

          I agree with sunni coververtablefor once. reassess your belief!!! Why are you ahmadi?

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      33. Sunni convert, should she be given jamaat duties by the khalifa now that we all agree she is a LIAR and prepared to lie under oath?

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      34. I got it the advice our kids will get during their counselling session with fozia khan is you should lie when your husband asks you even when under oath. That will make you a good armada wife!

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      35. Ahmadi wife not armada

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      36. I am an Ahmadi and i think what this Fozia Khan has done is completely wrong and what is worse is some Ahmadis are trying to defend her wrong actions. Both her and her husband should step down from any position they have.

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        1. Normally any councilors usually have to go through the CBA checks before they are appointed as councilors, it's a big responsibility and you should have someone who you can trust. I don't think that this jamaat should be any different, Fozia Khan was going to advise or council young ahmadis on matters of marriage. Furthermore, I don't think she is qualified for the job, I am sure there are many ahmadis who were qualified for this job but were not given a chance.
          I personally would of not send my kids for any sort of counselling regarding marriage to Fozia or any other person. Parent's know best!

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        2. AS A PARENT YOU DO NOT HAVE A CHOICE! IF YOU WANT YOUR CHILD'S NIQAH READ BY AN AHMADI THEY HAVE TO ATTEND PRE MARITAL COUNSELLING! YOU DONT HAVE MUCH OF A CHOICE BECAUSE ITS NOT LIKE A MUSLIM (NON AHMADI) CAN READ THEIR NIQAH NOW BECAUSE YOU AND YOUR KIDS WOULD BE EX COMMUNICATED!

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        3. what's this counselling about? Is it to reduce the divorce rate statistics?

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        4. I STILL WON'T HAVE NO CHILD OF MINE ATTENDING PRE MARITAL COUNSELLING AND IF EX COMMUNICATED... THEN SO BE IT!

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      37. Actually I got two legs but no glasses, the optometrist said I didn't need them yet. You on the other hand lack comprehension.
        With regards to spying - talk to Shabbir Bhatti he's an expert.

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        1. @ 09:34

          Since you admit that this blog and this article is completely against the teachings of Holy Quran, why don't you go and repent. Give some sadqa and ask God for forgiveness.

          I may lack comprehension, I am human, but lets see if you lack conviction.


          Shahabe Saqib

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        2. LOL You can't help yourself can you? Condescending and Arrogant. Try not to put words in my mouth.
          How about you ask Allah that he Guide on the Right path aswell as your True Ahmadi Leaders to whom you defend without question. Infact that makes you sad.
          I pity your mentality maybe one day you'll learn to think for yourself.

          Why do u keep going off topic???

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      38. Whatever she and he did is between them and Allah. Its not up to you to decide who should step down and who should get a promotion!! If you were a true Ahmadi you would know this. And be afraid of the day when the Almighty God exposes you.

        We follow a Niazm, thats what keeps the order. Huzur (atba) is not bound to out wishes and rightly so as we have limited knowledge and this blog is the doing of Iblis – nothing more. Believing Iblis is suicide.

        We are not in the Middle East where the Non-Ahmadi Muslims have sold their souls and are only too happy to rebel against their leaders and destroy the national wealth in the process and hand over the keys to their cities to the Dadjaal.

        Shahabe Saqib

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        1. You mean accept tyranny and keep quiet????

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        2. one word - Rabwah

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        3. These would have been arguments that would have helped 2nd Khalifa known as Khalifa Zani to do whatever he wanted and blind Ahmadis would say - we have to follow the Nizam even if the Khalifa is adulterer.

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      39. Are you a true Ahmadi who can't see right from wrong?
        Are Fozia and Nasser Khan 'True Ahmadis' who represent the Nizaam. Is that what true Ahmadis are nowadays people who lie and deceive and end up in court like this husband and wife team.
        You think we should accept people who are guilty of such crimes.
        Indeed Allah inshallah will deal with them, but let me say this to you; you're right about one thing we are not in the Middle East of even Rabwah - so I have the right to express my opinion and you and people like you can not stop it.
        And who gives you the right to criticise all Non Ahmadis and say they've sold their souls. They are people who believe in the oneness of God and Muhammad SAW. Who's given you the right to look down upon them from your self appointed pedestal. It looks to me as if you have sold your soul to Nizaam. If this blog is the doing of Iblis then what are you doing here, go on and express your opinion elsewhere. True Ahmadi Shahabe Saqib you're arrogant beyond belief.

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        1. @Jan 31, 2012 10:21 AM

          Nice reply, ahmadis are so arrogant!

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        2. I agree, good answer

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      40. Hello Findings, where are all those people who accused you of making things up and called you a liar gone. Months ago when you said you had some info on Nas they accused you of all sorts; they should at least say sorry we got it wrong. But they probably won't just like Nasser and Fozia Khan.

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      41. I would like to point out that the Jamaat has placed sanctions against Ahmadis because they went to the UK courts over the Ahmadi Punjabi courts so they absolutely must penalise her the same way. This isnt about sinning and lying. This is about JAMAAT HYPOCRISY and horrific control and mistreatment of those who do not have the power to help themselves! I for one am disgusted. I hope he is removed from all posts and is released from duty. I would also like to say I work for the British Courts and this information is not easy to get hold of. Findings would have had to really pull some strings to get this information. Brava on your excellent find. I am now convinced you are what you say you are. If you can get hold of this, then the rest of your findings must be a piece of cake. Good work. From a border line ex Ahmadi/ almost an atheist.

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      42. I bet the lawyers are going to be all over this page now! Human rights lawyers if you are reading: THIS IS A CULT!!! I am a Cultee, Get me out of here!!!

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      43. I agree. This is no ordinary find. I am shocked people are dismissing this

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      44. There seem to be 2 or 3 loyalists who keep going off topic and are trying to defend the indefensible. What Findings has put up is backed with solid proof and evidence but you can't make people understand who's views are fixed regardless. Hence we have these same people making irrelevant comments. Credit to you Findings for this post and also allowing 'fair play' and publishing their views.

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      45. Stop ranting at raving for 3/4 of your "leaks". It only demonstrates how your "leaks" are being influenced by your personal bias, this tells anyone with a half brain to not hold you as an authority of truth. And you must be into sadism. you take joy in ruining peoples life.

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      46. Good 'response' anon 02:06 don't discuss the blog just attack the messenger. No one is forcing you to read this blog. Bye bye

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      47. LOL this is all so hilarious! How on earth did I know this would be spun around back on me?! I must be psychic? Or maybe its that you Qadis are predictable? @ Sadism- Me? Isn't it your Cult Jamaat that publicly humiliates people? Names names before Friday prayers? That sends out circulars telling people that such and such has been ex communicated?! Why is it you people are so quick to forget all of that?! Oh right, its because you believe your Cult to be devine and thus making it OK? Yeah, silly me, that's the kind of reader I am up against!! Your Khalifa is chief sadist then!! If your Cult can do it, then so shall I! Get over yourself and realise that this isn't a personal grudge its about doing the right thing. That being to expose hypocrisy. It really is that simple! That goes out to all you Qadis posting rubbish! (Findings- Not logged In)

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      48. Nas Khan... Whatcha gonna do eh? Best get your step ladder out and start climbing down!!! This is not all I can do ;) I hope you are finally taking 'munafiq findings' seriously now. I can cause all sorts of mischief! Kekekekekeke. Oh and if you do know who I am, just come over and pay me a visit and maybe we can talk?! Oh sorry no, you can't do that, because its been over a year and you still can't work out who I am!!! Cowboys!!!
        (Findings - Not logged In)

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      49. "personal reasons"

        Are you sure you dealt with it 100%? Your cunning but not 100% effective. Just you wait and see ...

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      50. @Findings,

        Imagine they do finally work out who you are and all this hits the fan, they will do anything and everything they can, dirty mean nasty and cruel, in order to get you to back off or surrender.

        That includes your whole family and circle. It is a price you may have to pay, are you ready ?

        Because come this weekend or next at the latest, you or someone totally "innocent" is going to get accused of being you and hauled before them, to face the music.

        They are scared angry panicky and right now need a scapegoat. This post against NAS's wife has gone too far

        So be ready, be strong, be prepared. There is NOTHING they can do legally, as convictions are a matter of public knowledge and record.

        The only thing you are facing is what they are going to do to you and family and you know that is nasty

        I KNOW what is coming


        GOOD LUCK

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      51. @ I KNOW thanks for your concern.

        Now to anyone who is accused by the jamaat or receives an unexpected call from an 'official' wanting to have a meeting and doesn't want to give you the reason why proceed with caution.

        Don't go alone, since your parents are not involved you should take a independent witness with you.

        The witness should NOT be from the community but preferably a Gora who will not be afraid to question them. Better still take someone from the legal profession or a policeman or a local mp/councillor or even a journalist if you are able to.

        Ask them to provide proof and evidence IN WRITING of what they want to accuse you of.

        Finally Record your meeting most mobiles are able to do this.

        Don't be afraid. It is not illegal to express an opinion or have a different view in this country.
        Remember you are not living in Rabwah, but a democratic country where someone is innocent UNTIL PROVEN guilty.

        Follow these steps and these corrupt people will not have a leg to stand on and they won't mess with you.

        Good Luck - trust me in front of the White man these professional hypocrites put on a completely different front.

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        1. *************************************************************************************
          Read this everyone and be prepared just incase they accuse you.
          *************************************************************************************

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        2. I must admire your Faith about ISLAM taking refuge and help from white man

          BORN SLAVE DIE AS SLAVE
          welldone

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      52. This post is about the wife of Nasser Khan committing perjury and is 100% TRUE. Why don't they deal with this issue.
        Come on Raf you've known all about it for at least a year why are you still covering up for them. I know they're your close friends, but do Ahmadies want dishonest people representing TRUE Islam?
        Raf you're makng a fool out of Huzoor. He's taking the flack for your decisions. People in the Jamaat are mocking him (Huzoor) in private. Wow what an achievement, I've never seen that before to this extent an Amir undermining the Khalifa's credibility.

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      53. Those who love (to see) scandal published (and) broadcast among the Believers will have a grievous Penalty in this life and in the Hereafter: Allah knows and ye know not. (Quran, 19-24)

        O you who believe! Avoid much suspicions, indeed some suspicions are sins. And spy not, neither backbite one another. Would one of you like to eat the flesh of his dead brother? You would hate it (so hate backbiting). And fear Allâh. Verily, Allâh is the One Who accepts repentance, Most Merciful. (Quran, 49:12)

        Can the under cover, anti Ahmadiyya, anti humanist, hatred inciting Mullas of this website comment on the above verses in relation to this blog? Or have you all gone to Rawalpindi?

        Just out of curiosity, does the Khatmay Naboowat Ltd. offer good benefits like, car and fuel allowance, pensions, season ticket loan. And do you get a performance related bonus or is the size of the bonus related to the length of the beard?

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        1. Actually the benefits are better for the Ahmadi maulvis. FREE Housing, FREE heating gas and electricity bills, phone, council tax all FREE, FREE car, insurance and repairs, FREE furniture, appliances and pensions. FREE worldwide holidays for the whole family every couple of years. PLUS monthly income and on top of this some of them even claim benefits. IF you're really lucky your Kids will get FREE Private School education.
          You get a bonus related to your subservience to the Khalifa and if you're a Mirza offshoot.

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      54. This is not "gossip", its a Public Humiliation.

        They allow those, don't they? So why can't Findings publicly humiliate them?

        Or do we have double-standards...? :-)

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        1. No double standards, Jamaat is following in the foot steps of the Holy Prophet (SAW), so where necessary it take steps to safeguard interests of other members by highlighting the wrong doers. It is that simple. Where no action is taken then the ordinary person who don't know full details has no right to speak out as THEY ARE NOT AWARE OF THE FULL FACTS.

          The real question is, given above verses? are the "real" owners and creators of this blog sticking to Islamic teachings?

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        2. I was talking about the rejects from Ahmadiyyat who end up with Khatmay Naboowat gnag. What sort of benefits do they get? Converts to Ahmadiyyat have to start making financial sacrifices.

          Obviously any religious or non religious organization has staff costs. So does Jamaat. Nothing odd about that.

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        3. Then Findings is taking the same steps in Publicly Humiliating members of the Nizam-e-Jamat

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      55. The AMA publicly humiliate, they encourage ostracism, they cause angst and heartache, they defame members through their practice of boycott. Then they smile at the white man invite him to a dinner and say 'love for all hatred for none'.
        Is this practice recommended anywhere in the Quran. NO

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        1. Why don't you show some respect to the people whom this country belongs to? What you refer to as "white man" has done enormous amounts of good for the whole world. Be sure to remember this next time you are down at the hospital, vesting someone or otherwise, and see how people are being looked after and how the lives of people have been made better thanks to the advancements in modern medicine along.

          We Ahmadi Muslims acknowledge what is good. You Non Ahmadi Muslims live by hate and mindless hate alone.

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        2. @anon 05:35
          Try to understand, picking out one word a twisting it seems to be your forte.
          We Ahmadis behave differently in front of anyone with a white face. The "white man" is more straight forward and accepts the platitudes of the subcontinent ahmadi at face value. I'm not insulting the people of this country, on the contrary they call a spade a spade. Sadly what is lacking in Ahmadi representatives is honesty, they are cunning and deceitful with their own 'brown faces'.
          And stop attacking all Non Muslims, just like Ahmadis they have good and bad amongst them.
          Do you acknowledge what is bad and wrong amongst your fellow Ahmadis?

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        3. @ Anon 5:58
          And what face value would you like western world to see? You know something this sounds like a Mulla confession that after all those killings and other types of persecution of Ahmadis in Pakistan or elsewhere it just seems to be helping the Ahmadis. The Ahmadis have flourished and the mulla lead Muslims "ummah" is just bad to worse.

          You are just angry that the western world knows you for what you are - full of hate for anything to do with western world, and you have just proved your hatred for the people of this country. You Non Ahmadi Muslims have found out.

          Don't worry about the "cunning and deceitful" Ahmadis, they will soon be caught and a circulr will go to the local Jamats about them.

          P.s. i did not attack any "Non Muslim". That is what you do. You racist bigoted ungrateful pathetic excuse of a human being.

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        4. @Feb 1, 2012 05:35 AM

          Indeed one should respect and obey the rules and people of the country you reside in but I refuse to believe that they are superior beings of this world regardless of their color.

          I pay my dues in this country by paying national insurance just like every working class citizen, I appreciate the fact NHS is free and education. I treat anyone who lives in this country with the same respect regardless of their citizenship else well.

          I most certainly won't feel inferior to them just because I live in this country. Ahmadis suffer from inferiority complex when they are with the white people, how backward is that.

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        5. hahahahahahahaa Huzoor will be pleased that his loyal subject is calling fellow Ahmadi bretheren 'racist bigoted ungrateful pathetic excuse of a human being'
          That's right I ain't no Ghair Ahmadi as you put it.

          have you forgotten 'love for all.......' hahahahahahaa

          Try to be truthful bro I know its hard for you especially when you follow the example of this nizaam
          at 5:35 you say 'you non ahmadi muslims live by hate and mindless hate alone'
          and then
          at 5:58 you say 'ps i did not attack any non muslim, that is what you do........'

          Unless you stick to the blog topic comments I'm not gonna bother with you.
          hahhhahahahahahaha

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        6. Don't worry about the "cunning and deceitful" Ahmadis, they will soon be caught and a circulr will go to the local Jamats about them.

          Look this idiot just admitted the process of public humiliation. Why do others deny it??

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        7. Read your comment at 05:35 you said "And stop attacking all Non Muslims"

          I have responded to you at 06:23 and wrote "P.s I did not attack any Non Muslims"

          Your comment at 06:45 says the same thing.

          You are a bit confused right? Or just plain stupid?

          And also, you ARE racist, bigoted and STUPID and a pathetic excuse of a human being. By the way I don’t know how you got hate from that, I never said I hated you. No one in their right mind could hate mentally retarded. You just feel sorry for them.

          AT Anon 06:49 they are not public humiliation. Its an Islamic practice. But what would you know about Islam.

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        8. "And also, you ARE racist, bigoted and STUPID and a pathetic excuse of a human being."

          "I never said I hated you"

          does not compute.

          And since when is it islamic practice to publicly humiliate people for... for what exactly? What are you accusing these Ahmadis of? For being "cunning and decetiful"? In which way?

          The funny thing I used to be just like you. And then one day I woke up and realised all the hatred and BS I was being fed since my birth. SubhanAllah.

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        9. You have now written several comments using abusive language. So let me talk to you in the language you understand. You are an ignorant , uneducated 'person' who speaks parrot fashion platitudes. Alas you have confused Islam with Nizaam/Khilafat/subservience to humans rather than Allah. You do not know what Islam is. You are shameful in your abusive language calling people you have not met stupid, insinuating they are mentally retarded, racist and bigoted. Infact that is what people like you are. You can't answer with logic or reason so you resort to abue.Go study Islam in its original format, Read the Quran with translation and understand, Focus on the character of the Holy Prophet saw and maybe you will become a better Muslim for it. Get off your high horse and stop behaving in an arrogant fashion for Allah abhors arrogance. There has been no humility in your comments you are just a jail fool who doesn't even know the religion he thinks he is following. Shame on you. I pity the parents who have brought you up in this abusive way to attack and belittle.

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        10. @Anon 07:59
          Sorry for stepping on your tail but Anon @06:45 is rather stupid isnt he for confusing Non Muslim with Muslim....at first I thought it was a typo but he insisted on it. So pardon me but how am I suppose to respond rationally to idiotic posts?

          You are calling my language abusive WELL LISTEN YOU HARD HEADED MULLA I WILL NEVER SHOW ANY HUMILITY TO THOSE WHO DISRESPECT PROPHETS OF ALLAH. This blog has repeatedly disrespected Hazrat Messiah Maud (AS) - He (AS) is that reformer whom has been foretold by none other than Hazrat Mohammad (SAW). You disrespect The Promised Messiah THEN YOU DISRESPECT THE HOLY PROPHET (SAW).

          When it comes to protecting the good name of the Prophets of Allah Ahmadis are not like you violent Non Muslims, we are clear on the objective and we do it with hikma. Not with burring books or effigies.

          Giving you taste of your own disgusting medicine. You don't like it then stop dishing it out.

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        11. And another thing @Anon 07:59 am

          here is a verse from Holy Quran, why dont you share your understanding with us and explain this blog / post under the light of the below verse

          Those who love (to see) scandal published (and) broadcast among the Believers will have a grievous Penalty in this life and in the Hereafter: Allah knows and ye know not. (Quran, 19-24)

          What about this one??

          O you who believe! Avoid much suspicions, indeed some suspicions are sins. And spy not, neither backbite one another. Would one of you like to eat the flesh of his dead brother? You would hate it (so hate backbiting). And fear Allâh. Verily, Allâh is the One Who accepts repentance, Most Merciful. (Quran, 49:12)

          You lot are full of it.

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        12. @Anon 08:34

          Your reference 19:24 from OUR beloved Quran is from surah Maryam and has this meaning

          But he called her from below her, "Do not grieve; your Lord has provided beneath you a stream.

          You have published an incorrect reference or ayah. I guess it's not your fault as a non-muslim what need would you have to read and understand the Quran.

          Shamefully the Quran for you is of no importance and you would rather believe in a charlatan and his twisted writings.

          In regards to your second correct reference then I am sorry to inform you that the Quranic ayah's you quote applies only to Muslims. Ahmadi's such as yourself who believe in a Prophet after the final Prophet PBUH are NOT MUSLIMS!.

          Therefore please do not use OUR holy scripture to attack us as we know the people being attacked and exposed onn this blog post are NOT MUSLIMS and therefore this and other ayahs do not apply to them.

          It's quite simple really the Quran is talking about believers and brothers and you sadly fall into neither of these categories.

          That having been said if you renounce your heretical belief in the liar the charlatan the cursed Mirza Ghulam Ahmad then I would be the first to welcome you as a brother in Islam and would be the first to defend you and honour you.

          May Allah guide you and all other heretical deviants. Ameen.

          Before you start with the Mad Mullah thing let me advise you I am an Ex-Ahmadi whose grandparents are buried in your heavenly graveyard.

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        13. @ Anon 10:32 aka Mad Mulla now ex-ahmadi, and "into the hell fire" (not my words)

          See Chapter 24 verse 19. THE VERSES R THERE. Ref are not incorrect just some ppl refer to the verse first then the chapter. You calling it incorrect was a bit below the belt don’t you think? I can play dirty too.

          Re the second verse, and it being applicable to Muslims only. What is there to support this?

          So by your reckoning it is ok to back bite and harm people of other religions, not that Ahmadis have a separate religion. Just like the Jewish religion where it is permissible to defraud people of other religions.

          Well well well...many many salutations to Hazrat Mohammad (SAW) who said this in a hadith

          ‘Surely things will happen to my people as happened earlier to Israelites, they will resemble each other like one shoe in a pair resembles the other to the extent that if anyone among the Israelites has openly committed adultery to his mother there will be some who will do this in my Ummah as well (Tirmidhi - Kitabul Eeman)

          Next tine you are there outside the Israeli embassy protesting against something or other, take a moment out from burning effigies and just remember you and them are not so different. Two peas in a pod. Peanut butter and jelly, a turd and toilet paper. Oh and may Allah guide you too.

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        14. @Anon 11:56 you said

          'Mad Mulla now ex-ahmadi, and "into the hell fire" (not my words)'

          Please elaborate whose words are these if not your own?

          Also forgive me for implying your reference from OUR GLORIOUS Quran was wrong. It is agreed some people may quote verse first then chapter but only a MENTAL RETARD would use one convention for one reference and then another for the second.

          No i do not believe it is ok to harm and backbite people of other religions and it is definitely better not to do.

          However as Sister findings has merely pointed out a fact of some individuals in your so called Divine Jamaat, I do not consider this backbiting.

          And even if it is, it is excused on the basis that there is benefit to be had from backbiting those people. The benefit here would be that cult members can see the hypocrisy of their leaders and the errors of their beliefs and if by that backbiting as you consider it, if even a single person was to become a Muslim then that can be excused.

          However backbiting a Muslim, no matter what the circumstances are, is not permissible. Unfortunately the Qadiani's do not fall into this prohibition as they are unanimously considered beyond the pale of Islam i.e Kaafir.

          I'm amazed you chose to quote a hadith yet ignore all those other numerous ahadith that prove beyond a shadow of doubt that your false Prophet was just that, FALSE.

          Even then please do quote the full hadith in future. Typical Qadiani manipulation shown here.

          I will post full hadith myself it says

          ‘Surely things will happen to my people as happened earlier to Israelites, they will resemble each other like one shoe in a pair resembles the other to the extent that if anyone among the Israelites has openly committed adultery to his mother there will be some who will do this in my Ummah as well, verily the Israelites were divided into 72 sects but my people will be divided into 73 sects, all of them will be in the fire except one.' The companions asked. 'Who are they O Messenger of Allah,' Holy Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم said. `They are those who will be like me and my companions.’
          (Tirmidhi - Kitabul Eeman)

          Now lets assume the authenticity of this hadith is ok (for arguments sake as I do not want to get to get into a big debate on authenticity at this stage) then it is clear for all to see that only one group of people will escape the fire.

          The hadith also tells us which group that will be where it states '`They are those who will be like me and my companions.’

          Now I ask you to provide me of a SINGLE authentic evidence where any of the companions of the Prophet PBUH believed in Prophecy after the final Prophet Muhammad PBUH.

          Or give me a SINGLE authentic evidence to show the Qadiani's are like the Prophet PBUH and his companions (may Allah be pleased with them).

          If the Qadiani's were the saved sect then surely there would be countless narrations from the companions and the Prophet PBUH which would resemble the beliefs of the Qadiani's, yet there are NONE!

          So it is clear to see for any rational logical and Allah guided person to see that Qadiani's are not worth wasting time over. Were it not for the fact that we still have some poor family members in this deviated, twisted cult we would not be wasting our time on entertaining Qadiani's such as the ones who post on this blog.

          As harsh as it seems we are not doing it for you we are selfishly doing it for our families to try and save them from the torment of the fire!

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      56. Also share how Mullah Mirza Masroor give threat to girls who wont do Pardah that such person will be thrown out from family owned cult :)

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      57. I think people should look up the difference between sects and cults and make an informed and impartial decision as to what the ahmadiyya community is. They are a sect from what I can understand based upon descriptions of sects. Google it people

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      58. Hello Findings. I am a younger generation Ahmadi and although I find some of your posts and comments hard to swallow, there is alot of truth in what you say.

        It has taken me a long time to find the guts to write on this blog but I feel it is the first step in me opening my mind and seeing things clearly.

        This post about Nasser Khan's wife has been a turning point for me. Not only because it highlights yet again how wrong our set up is but (through the posts by other ahmadis) it reminds me also how brainwashed we are as a community and for the first time, I've realised that we are brought up to hate other muslims. I feel quite sickened by this realisation.

        I hope you continue to help people open their eyes. I think you must feel betrayed by the lies our Jamaat feeds us because I think (after all the love, loyalty, time and trust I have given my Jamaat) that is exactly how I am feeling too.

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        1. piss off if your not happy

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        2. is this how you talk to your fellow Ahmadis who are in need of an emaan boost? wow! love for all hatred for none as your cult says?

          @ upset brother/sister.. do not be upset. get out your prayer mat and sincerely beg Allah for guidance. Beg and plead with him to show you the way. ALLAH WILL NOT FAIL YOU! Hold on to Allah's rope and question your Ahmadi faith. All is not what it seems. Goodluck brother may Allah grant you hidayah.

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        3. @ Anon 09:43

          Typical Ahmadi 'Love for all Hatred for None' language!

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        4. @Feb 1, 2012 09:43 AM

          WOW! I can't believe what you just told this young ahmadi, this is basically one of the reasons I left this cult, with this cult's sheer arrogance, lies and falsehood.

          @Young Ahmadi follow the advice that... a muslimFeb 1, 2012 10:13 AM has given. Good luck!

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        5. @ upset - I too am an Ahmadi like you and disheartened at the disgusting responses of Ahmadis. There are so many flaws in our system that the nizaam are too obnoxious to even try and correct. When they can't remove dishonest people what example are they setting. I know exactly what you are saying and feeling.

          @piss off - omg you appalling example of an Ahmadi. This is what Ahmadiyat teaches you is it? To Be abusive to someone who is dismayed by double standards and dishonesty. you truly have an unislamic attitude and need hidayaa from God Almighty. Why is there so much hate for Muslims in the Ahmadis on this blog it is shameful and must be a reflection of what is in your homes or what the jamaat reps are teaching you.

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      59. FINDINGS NOT LOGGED IN1 February 2012 at 18:29

        @ 9.43- get out of here!

        Salaam Ahmadi doubter! I know what you mean! I know it is hard to stomach, but you are lucky you are waking up to the truth, we have 'piss off' here who is still obviously very blind. Keep reading and keep questioning. This Jamaat is a fraud and Allah is now enabling us to show you and others that this is the case (in our own way). There are good and bad people in every religion but remember, on the Day of Judgement, no one is going to answer for us but ourselves! So, who cares if there are a few nut job Muslims out there who want to blow up the FTSE! We don't care for them! We care for our OWN AKHIRA! The Ummah is tight, but it is suffering problems, hence why we have nut job Muslims trying to blow up the FTSA. Things have got to get worse before they get better- where did MGA go so horribly wrong?

        I am going to pray for you tonight inshAllah. Mind how you go...and yes all is not what it seems! You don't know me to trust me, but if I say that this Jamaat is DISGUSTING. I only wish I could show the world everything I have. Maybe one day, when I am in position to do so. FILTH ain't even the word!

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      60. It says alot about the moral standards of cult ahmadiyya when they dont have problem with their senior leaders lying, cheating and commiting perjury, a real beacon for the rest of the world............NOT!!

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      61. The moral standards of the AMA are so low that they don't care if their audehdhars are liars, crooks or cheaters. Watch they will do nothing to the likes of Nasser Khan or Rafiq Hayat; but leave it to God Almighty when His Wrath falls upon these deceitful people who are deceiving many innocent people, then they will learn right from wrong. It's just a matter of time.

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      62. God's wrath is already upon Raf - he's a sick man - aren't you. ; ). Heard all about your problems.

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        1. He looks sick to me too

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      63. im the one who said "piss off if your not happy" and i'd like to say it again, if your not happy plain and simple leave same goes to you findings piss off your not welcome.

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        1. I've got one for you - jump off a cliff goodbyeeeeeeeeee

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        2. Hello this is her blog what are you doing here. practice what you preach and piss off yourself

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      64. I am an Ahmadi as well but have been disheartned for a while and now I need your help to quit because your blog has opened my eyes.
        Pls tell me what should I do now ? Pls help.
        I am a bit confused that which Jamat should join now or which Sheikh should I go ?As I have not much knowledge but I am sure any of the brothers can help and guide me . Because It was very hard to take this decision . So I want to be careful to pick my future Jamat . Pls pls help.
        Salam

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        1. dial 0800-find-a-sect

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        2. be prepared to be put on hold, findings still in the queue ;)

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        3. This is an important issue. If some one just wants to be a muslim (with out being a sunni muslim or shia muslim etc.) is there an option?

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        4. Pls help .
          Because I believe in faith and I am sure there must be one Jamat atleast where I can go after Quiting Ahmadiyya. I am still waiting

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        5. Sunni convert.. you should in future check which username you're using when pretending to be multiple people.. you've been entertained on this blog long enough. Your comments are no longer going to be allowed.

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        6. You are mistaken here my dear!
          As I made a mistake but let us not go into that and take up on the issue . I wish if you can come up with One Line of what NEXT IF NOT AHMADIYYAT on coming SUNDAY the I will appriceate what you are trying to do is for a genuine reason but not just personal ego!!!!

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        7. That's the last comment allowed from you sunni convert.. seeing as you've just admitted your guilt of posing as multiple people. For future reference any more topic diversion is not going to be allowed.

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        8. @ those who wish to leave, there is no sect in Islam Islam is just pure and simple Islam, you need no shaikhe or Mullah or leader. Follow the Holy Quran study the Arabic language as it is very deep and meaningful.

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        9. @ Findings and you too Sunni convert
          So Sunni convert is posing as multiple people. That probably means he ain't no convert and he too is a liar. See a fine example of a liar sticking up for mutual liars. Findings do you remember Mr Clifton? same writing style 'my dear'

          Sunni convert is this your 'job' at the moment to defend the jamaat on this blog. Or are you a dafter donkey? Go tell Raffi and Nas that more of their lies will be exposed and you arse licker will be here to defend them.


          sadooo

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        10. @ arse licker" 1.46 am
          You are bunch of cunning and liers here on this blog. You don't have a leg to stand to call somebody a liar .
          What you do here is always a lie, mockery, back biting ETC. What service of Islam are you doing?
          Your "so-called Findings" is pretending to be a girl which he is not.
          She claims to be an Ahmadi which he is not but already have been kicked out of Jamat and I know who he is! And you trying to lick her/his ass here coming with out any identity don't have a face to show here. What are you scared of ? Why hide your ugly face ? Do you have any credibility to speak?
          Go to your Mullah,s who are a true picture of falsehood from top to bottom.If this is the way you learn !

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        11. wow Sunni Convert, this is soo embarrassing! WHO WILL TRUST YOUR WORDS NOW ?? BTW I'm AHMADI

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      65. Cult girl if you hate the jamaat so much why don't you just leave? Noone is forcing you to stay in it!

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        1. cos its friday,she aint got a job and she aint got shhh to do.....

          chris t

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      66. Why are these commenting Ahmadies so bitter. Not a single comment from these people are related to the topic. They're making a mockery of their own slogan love for all hatred for none. It seems from these comments from Ahmadies are full of hate. These people are quietly feeling humiliated that their representatives are such liars. tut tut tut.
        Keep these liars in their jobs who cares - it just proves your leaders lie and you cover for them.

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      67. for my non ahmadis friends



        Telling Lies



        The minister was passing a group of young teens sitting on the Church
        lawn and stopped to ask what they were doing.
        "Nothing much, Pastor," replied one boy. "We were just seeing who can
        tell the biggest lie about their sex life."
        "Boys, boys, boys!" he scolded. "I'm shocked. When I was your age, I
        never even thought about sex."
        In unison they all replied, "You win!"

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      68. @ all very few here on this blog claiming to be an Ahmadi
        Just One advice for you
        If you Believe you are An Ahmadi then you should be ashamed of your self to be on this blog and supporting the view unless you are defending Jamat.
        As Our beloved Imam and beloved Khalifa and Senior officials and our Believe have been attacked and insulted here on this blog. So again shame on you.
        HOWEVER if you have any issue or any reservation with system or any individual then follow the procedure with in Jamat or write to Huzur. But dont mourn your cries here where you have been called Non Muslim.
        So be wise and courageous to follow the Isamic way to give your opinion and stop coming here like a coward and hypocrate and make fun of youself infront of enemies.
        Wassalam

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        1. @ sunni convert
          This a very typical response of someone with a warped mentality:

          'If you Believe you are An Ahmadi then you should be ashamed of your self to be on this blog and supporting the view unless you are defending Jamat. '

          does your bus campaign not advocate freedom? does this country not allow freedom of speech, Islam permits to speak the truth.

          'if you have any issue or any reservation with system or any individual then follow the procedure with in Jamat or write to Huzur.'

          tell us what procedure should one follow in this case?
          Huzur does not even read his own letters, he's got others reading a responding on his behalf.

          'Isamic .....hypocrate..... youself'

          Learn to spell and write properly.
          If Ahmadis are unhappy about the way certain people in the administration are conducting themselves they have every right to express it whenever or wherever they wish. What gives you the right to stop them.

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        2. Still a hypocrite and basless argument.
          Go and see Huzur if that is what you think.
          And if some talks about your mother or father like this "democratically" would you join them ?

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        3. LOSER you can't answer any of the questions. hahahaha You are a complete idiot, listen to yourself 'go and see Huzur" . I'm not going to entertain you Idiot any longer - thick and jahil, uneducated fool, 'go and see Huzur' ask him to pray for you that you might get some sense and learn to spell. 'go and see Huzur' hahahahahahaha.

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        4. Stop being a donkey and mourning about spellings. You "kalay angrez"
          And make sense.
          When you talk about Freedom of Speech then you still have to keep your limits.
          There is no difference between you and people who try to make mockery of Our Beloved Prophet (PBUH) on the name of freedom . So are soooooooo thick and rough.

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      69. The main point is she lied on oath.
        That means she took the name of Allah (S.W.T) and his Messenger (S.A.W) with utter disregard and utter contempt.
        This is not the type of behaviour one expects from those in charge of moral posts within the community.
        Both position held by these moral guardians has now been compromised.
        That is unless your in the inner circle of untouchables.

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        1. That, and had it been anyone else, the Ahmadiyya would have publicly humiliated and condemned him or her.

          So, this 'Divine Jamaat' has a double-standard on how it treats people, who it publicly condemns, and ex-communications.

          http://thecult.info/blog/2012/01/28/dealing-with-the-modern-crisis-islam-vs-ahmadiyya/

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      70. @Anon 11:56 you said

        'Mad Mulla now ex-ahmadi, and "into the hell fire" (not my words)'

        Please elaborate whose words are these if not your own?

        Also forgive me for implying your reference from OUR GLORIOUS Quran was wrong. It is agreed some people may quote verse first then chapter but only a MENTAL RETARD would use one convention for one reference and then another for the second.

        No i do not believe it is ok to harm and backbite people of other religions and it is definitely better not to do.

        However as Sister findings has merely pointed out a fact of some individuals in your so called Divine Jamaat, I do not consider this backbiting.

        And even if it is, it is excused on the basis that there is benefit to be had from backbiting those people. The benefit here would be that cult members can see the hypocrisy of their leaders and the errors of their beliefs and if by that backbiting as you consider it, if even a single person was to become a Muslim then that can be excused.

        However backbiting a Muslim, no matter what the circumstances are, is not permissible. Unfortunately the Qadiani's do not fall into this prohibition as they are unanimously considered beyond the pale of Islam i.e Kaafir.

        I'm amazed you chose to quote a hadith yet ignore all those other numerous ahadith that prove beyond a shadow of doubt that your false Prophet was just that, FALSE.

        Even then please do quote the full hadith in future. Typical Qadiani manipulation shown here.

        I will post full hadith myself it says

        ‘Surely things will happen to my people as happened earlier to Israelites, they will resemble each other like one shoe in a pair resembles the other to the extent that if anyone among the Israelites has openly committed adultery to his mother there will be some who will do this in my Ummah as well, verily the Israelites were divided into 72 sects but my people will be divided into 73 sects, all of them will be in the fire except one.' The companions asked. 'Who are they O Messenger of Allah,' Holy Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم said. `They are those who will be like me and my companions.’
        (Tirmidhi - Kitabul Eeman)

        Now lets assume the authenticity of this hadith is ok (for arguments sake as I do not want to get to get into a big debate on authenticity at this stage) then it is clear for all to see that only one group of people will escape the fire.

        The hadith also tells us which group that will be where it states '`They are those who will be like me and my companions.’

        Now I ask you to provide me of a SINGLE authentic evidence where any of the companions of the Prophet PBUH believed in Prophecy after the final Prophet Muhammad PBUH.

        Or give me a SINGLE authentic evidence to show the Qadiani's are like the Prophet PBUH and his companions (may Allah be pleased with them).

        If the Qadiani's were the saved sect then surely there would be countless narrations from the companions and the Prophet PBUH which would resemble the beliefs of the Qadiani's, yet there are NONE!

        So it is clear to see for any rational logical and Allah guided person to see that Qadiani's are not worth wasting time over. Were it not for the fact that we still have some poor family members in this deviated, twisted cult we would not be wasting our time on entertaining Qadiani's such as the ones who post on this blog.

        As harsh as it seems we are not doing it for you we are selfishly doing it for our families to try and save them from the torment of the fire!

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      71. It is confirmed that the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) said: "The Jews split into seventy-one sects; one will be in Paradise (i.e., those who followed Moses) and seventy will be in the Fire. The Christians split into seventy-two sects; seventy-one will be in the Fire and one will be in Paradise (i.e., those who followed Jesus). And by the One in Whose Hand is the soul of Muhammad, this Ummah (nation) of mine will split into seventy-three sects; one will be in Paradise and seventy-two will be in the Fire. It was asked, "Who are they, O Messenger of Allah?" He (peace be upon him) said, "Al-Jamaýah (i.e., the group which adheres steadfastly to the way of the Prophet, peace be upon him, and his Companions)." And in another narration: "(Those who follow) what I and my Companions are following."

        This is the saved group; those who adhere steadfastly to the truth that the Messenger (peace be upon him) came with, and adopt the way of the Messenger (peace be upon him) and that of his Companions. They are Ahl Al-Sunnah wal-Jamaýah (those adhering to the Sunnah and the Muslim community). They are the people who adhere to the Hadith; the righteous predecessors who follow in the footsteps of the early generations in acting upon the Qurýan and the Sunnah. Any sect that contradicts them is threatened with the Fire.

        You have to study every group that claims to be the victorious one. Scrutinize their deeds; if they are in conformity with the Shariah, they are included in the victorious group; otherwise they are not.

        The measure here is the Quraan and the Sunnah, so any group whose words and deeds are in accordance with the Book of Allah and the Sunnah of the Messenger (peace be upon him) is within the victorious one and any that contradict this, such as: the Jahmiyyah (an Islamic sect denying some of the Attributes of Allah, claiming they are ascribed to people and cannot be ascribed to Allah), the Muýtazilah (a deviant Islamic sect claiming that those who commit major sins are in a state between belief and disbelief), the Rafidah (a Shi`ah group denying the caliphates of Abu Bakr Al-Siddiq and ýUmar bin Al-Khattab, and making accusations against them and many other Companions), the Murjiýah (a deviant Islamic sect claiming that Faith is restricted to belief not deeds), and others, as well as most of the Sufis who invent matters in the religion, which Allah does not permit. They are all among the groups that the Messenger (peace be upon him) forewarned of the Fire, until they repent from going against Shariýah.

        Any group that adopts anything contrary to Shariah have to repent from it, and return to the right path and the truth that our Prophet, Muhammad (peace be upon him), brought. In this way they will be saved from the threat. But if they insist on the rejected innovations they have introduced in religion and do not follow the way of the Messenger (peace be upon him), they will be among the threatened groups. Not all of these groups are disbelievers, but they are threatened with the Fire. Among them are those who are disbelievers for committing acts of disbelief, and among them are those who are not disbelievers, but they are still threatened with the Fire, because they have introduced heresies in religion and sanctioned what Allah has not permitted (may He be Glorified and Exalted).

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      72. So my advice to all Ahmadi's who sincerely want to leave the deviated cult is to not be afraid. Islam really is quite simple. Join the masjid you see is following the way of the Prophet PBUH and his companions, i.e. the earlier generations.

        If you see any act or practice then feel free to question why it is being done. The people following the correct path will always be happy to give you the evidences for why a practice is being carried out. If you come across a person not willing to give you the evidences and detail on why anything in the religion is being done then immediately be wary of this person.

        Through this process you will Allah willing arrive at the simple and beautiful religion of Islam free of the shackles of Ahmadiya.

        I am based in the UK so if a brother or sister wants to tell me which city they are in I could recommend a starting point for them for them to be able to join the beautiful brotherhood/sisterhood of Islam.

        May Allah guide us all to the correct path.

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        1. @ Anon 11:51 am

          Oh WOW!! what an amazing advice...and the Holy Prophet (SAW) preciously gave the same advice did't he???? TRIAL AND ERROR. Go to one mosque, if you don't like it move onto the next one.

          What a mess you are!
          People see what I mean by Iblis?

          Here is what the Holy Prophet (SAW) said

          .....the companions asked who is that saved Jammat, Holy Prophet (SAW) replied they are those who are on my way and that of my Sahaba"

          And now it is so simple. After Hazrat Mohammad (SAW) there was Khilafat, all the Sahaba took bayat on the hand of the Khalifa. Look at all other sects in Islam, not ONE OF THEM has a Khalifa. They have the money, the resources BUT NO KHALIFA. ONLY AHMADIYYAT HAS A KHALIFA.

          Come and join us and experience true Islam.

          So simple

          Shahbe Saqib

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        2. Masroor is not a khalifa he is a donkey with no power. A khalifa has to enforce the shariah, Masroor doesn't even rule over any land lol. A leader of a community is called imam not khalifah.

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        3. So Ahnadiyyat is above all other religions and we Ahmadis are blessed because we have accepted the Imam of the time and we have a Khalifa. OK so explain this Saqib - Why are your chosen people of 'authority' guilty of lies perjury and crime?
          After all these people are reps of TRUE ISLAM. Surely Ahmadis who have a KHALIFA shouldn't behave like this. HUH? And the KHALIFA who reprint True Islam doesn't seem to mind having liar amongst him as advisors.
          It's a simple question lets see how you twist my words.

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      73. A truthful, moral, God fearing administration would have an inquiry and take action accordingly. But where those in charge are UNTRUTHFUL and bound by personal friendships and relationships then it will be swept under the carpet.
        I'm sure there are law abiding Ahmadis who are disappointed and disgusted at the way those with moral positions are abusing positions of trust.
        This is showing us that TRUE ISLAM representatives are being run by a group prepared to defend liars?

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      74. SIMPLE
        IT IS A POLICE CASE, AND COURT MATTER, PLUS CHARITY COMMISSION MATTER.
        REPORT THEM, PUT THEM BEHIND BARS, ONE RULE FOR ALL.
        SHAME ON MIRZA MASROOR TO APPOINT LIARS LIKE HIMSELF.
        IS THIS THRU DIVINE GUIDENCE??

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      75. There was a story in a german newspaper about an Ahmadi girl who was being forced to marry her cousin in Pakistan. Her parents took her to Pakistan and then took away all her papers and wanted her to marry her cousin. She on the other hand wanted to live with her German boyfriend. In the end she managed to escape and now lives with her boyfriend.

        Ahmadis always laugh and call the whole Ummah backwards when this kind of story appears in the newspaper about a Muslim family. But as they can now see the same thing is happening in their own circles. Furthermore this just shows the shambolic state of some Ahmadis, that despite accepting Mirza Qadiani the Messliar they are hardly an better than those backwards Muslim families. Both parents and children.

        This story was sent to me by a German Ahmadi friend of mine btw (may Allah guide him to Islam). There are so many of them here...

        http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.spiegel.de%2Fpanorama%2Fgesellschaft%2F0%2C1518%2C810089%2C00.html&act=url

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        1. No one has stated that lieing on oath or lieing per se is right. Thise jumping on various bandwagons need to stop and think of their own sinful lives for one second. Everyone has lied mutiple times in their lives and I hope asked for forgiveness from Allah. For all you know this lady maybe very sorry for what she has done and repented and Allah may have forgiven her. For Findings and her peanut gallery of hypocrites to sit in crass judgment for something which we have all done in our lives is hypocritical beyond belief

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        2. @ Anon 11:51

          You state
          So my advice to all Ahmadi's who sincerely want to leave the deviated cult is to not be afraid. Islam really is quite simple. Join the masjid you see is following the way of the Prophet PBUH and his companions, i.e. the earlier generations.

          Well if that is all that is required then what is the point of Hazrat Muhammad PBUH predicting the return of Isa Ibn Maryam. When he comes according to you will you just say " I am not going to follow you coz I am following xyz early people"

          Something must have gone wrong in yours system for Hazrat Isa AS to be needed/required??

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        3. @ Anon 11:40

          You state:

          However as Sister findings has merely pointed out a fact of some individuals in your so called Divine Jamaat, I do not consider this backbiting.

          And even if it is, it is excused on the basis that there is benefit to be had from backbiting those people. The benefit here would be that cult members can see the hypocrisy of their leaders and the errors of their beliefs and if by that backbiting as you consider it, if even a single person was to become a Muslim then that can be excused.

          This is all total subjective nonsense on what you consider. Is that supposed to be a basis for allowing backbiting. Make up any old justification about saving someone from some subjective perceived issue and then it's ok to backbite. Could you please show the Islamic justification for this selective backbiting rule you have just dreamt up. How do you KNOW who is or isn't a Muslim these are only your perceptions and not Allahs final judgement and your "the ends justify the means" excuses are preposterous and can be used to justify anything. BACKBITING IS BACKBITING DOOFUS

          you state:

          However backbiting a Muslim, no matter what the circumstances are, is not permissible. Unfortunately the Qadiani's do not fall into this prohibition as they are unanimously considered beyond the pale of Islam i.e Kaafir.

          Could you explain what Hadith you used to justify that bacbiting non muslims is permissible. Als the above is again subjective nonsense. If I was potentially comitting a major sin like backbiting I might want to err on the side of caution in case the people I consider non muslim perhaps in the sight of Allah they are actually muslims. But hey you have got a Unanimous Mullah verdict maybe Allah will be swayed.

          Continued below

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        4. Then you state:

          I will post full hadith myself it says

          ‘Surely things will happen to my people as happened earlier to Israelites, they will resemble each other like one shoe in a pair resembles the other to the extent that if anyone among the Israelites has openly committed adultery to his mother there will be some who will do this in my Ummah as well, verily the Israelites were divided into 72 sects but my people will be divided into 73 sects, all of them will be in the fire except one.' The companions asked. 'Who are they O Messenger of Allah,' Holy Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم said. `They are those who will be like me and my companions.’
          (Tirmidhi - Kitabul Eeman)

          Now ignoring the rest of your subjective nonsense which was below this lets be realistic. The last comment "They are those who will be like me and my companions". Now its patently obvious that most groups will claim to be this group and the statement is vague enough to make it easily applicable. Your interpretation may be correct or then again The Islam-Ahmadiyyat one may be correct as they have Khilafat which was amongst the companions of the Holy Prophet PBUH. Allah knows best. More importantly he says 72 sects will be in the fire and one will be saved and the Ummah will ape/copy the jews, to me this implies that the vast majority will be in the wrong. If this Hadith only implies to 5% of Muslims and 95% will be on the correct path what would be the point of mentioning 72/73 sects. Lets look at what Jews expected from their Messiah:

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        5. The Sanhedrin will be re-established (Isaiah 1:26)
          * Once he is King, leaders of other nations will look to him for guidance. (Isaiah 2:4)
          * The whole world will worship the One God of Israel (Isaiah 2:17)
          * He will be descended from King David (Isaiah 11:1) via King Solomon (1 Chron. 22:8-10)
          * The Moshiach will be a man of this world, an observant Jew with "fear of God" (Isaiah 11:2)
          *****In other words - this must all be accomplished in a human lifetime*****

          * Evil and tyranny will not be able to stand before his leadership (Isaiah 11:4)
          * Knowledge of God will fill the world (Isaiah 11:9)
          * He will include and attract people from all cultures and nations (Isaiah 11:10)
          * All Israelites will be returned to their homeland (Isaiah 11:12)
          * Death will be swallowed up forever (Isaiah 25:8)
          * There will be no more hunger or illness, and death will cease (Isaiah 25:8)
          * All of the dead will rise again (Isaiah 26:19)
          * The Jewish people will experience eternal joy and gladness (Isaiah 51:11)
          * He will be a messenger of peace (Isaiah 52:7)
          * Nations will end up recognizing the wrongs they did to Israel (Isaiah 52:13-53:5)
          * The peoples of the world will turn to the Jews for spiritual guidance (Zechariah 8:23)
          * The ruined cities of Israel will be restored (Ezekiel 16:55)
          * Weapons of war will be destroyed (Ezekiel 39:9)
          * The Temple will be rebuilt (Ezekiel 40) resuming many of the suspended mitzvot
          * He will then perfect the entire world to serve God together (Zephaniah 3:9)
          * Jews will know the Torah without Study (Jeremiah 31:33)
          * He will give you all the desires of your heart (Psalms 37:4)
          * He will take the barren land and make it abundant and fruitful (Isaiah 51:3, Amos 9:13-15, Ezekiel 36:29-30, Isaiah 11:6-9).

          Pretty long list but the implication is clear. The Jews were expecting al sorts of miraculous and wonderful things to happen but what happened. Their messiah was a humble man from Palestine, they roundly rejected him and tried to kill him. Now the above in no way suggests that HMGA AS is the messiah that is not my import. However it does give food for thought as to the similarities in the Jewish expectations and the current Muslim oones based on hadith. e.g Rasheed Sarpong in his interview wants 7 years where not a single person argues with another person or fights with him. Whilst he may be sincere in his desire is this really realistic??This has never happened before in the history of Mankind or Islam even for the Prophet Muhammad PBUH. Why would it happen now??

          Could the Messiah again be another humble man who the majority fail to recognise????

          Just for thought

          Peace

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        6. @ Anon 0239

          You state:

          Ahmadis always laugh and call the whole Ummah backwards when this kind of story appears in the newspaper about a Muslim family. But as they can now see the same thing is happening in their own circles. Furthermore this just shows the shambolic state of some Ahmadis, that despite accepting Mirza Qadiani the Messliar they are hardly an better than those backwards Muslim families. Both parents and children.


          That is the lamest argument ever: How about

          http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2070562/Muslim-girl-gang-kicked-Rhea-Page-head-yelling-kill-white-slag-FREED.html

          and

          http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2094537/Sisters-Muslim-teenager-branded-whore-kidnapped-cut-hair-kissing-white-man.html

          and then a white guy writes

          Muslims always laugh and call the whole Christian Nation backwards when this kind of story appears in the newspaper about a Christian family. But as they can now see the same thing is happening in their own circles. Furthermore this just shows the shambolic state of some Muslims, that despite accepting Prophet Muhammad PBUH as their Prophet and Islam as the perfect Religion they are hardly an better than those backwards Christian families. Both parents and children.

          See how lame it is

          Peace

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        7. there is another story of an Austrian Sunni Pakistani who converted to Christianity because her parents forced her to marry her cousin from Pakistan, ....happens in almost every community, A is not an exception...forced marriage is kind of common in punjabi culture...

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      76. Hey everyone read the reply by Mad Mulla Ex Ahmadi, now “hell bound” (not my words) Anon @11:40pm - though it is long, boring and badly written so i'd like to draw your attention to the following points he makes in response to my comment that his argument implies that it is permissible in Islam to harm people you do not consider to be Muslims.

        He make following 3 points
        1. “No i do not believe it is ok to harm and backbite people of other religions and it is definitely better not to do.”

        2. “And even if it is, it is excused on the basis that there is benefit to be had from backbiting those people. The benefit here would be that cult members can see the hypocrisy of their leaders and the errors of their beliefs and if by that backbiting as you consider it, if even a single person was to become a Muslim then that can be excused.”

        3. “However backbiting a Muslim, no matter what the circumstances are, is not permissible. Unfortunately the Qadiani's do not fall into this prohibition as they are unanimously considered beyond the pale of Islam i.e Kaafir.”

        So to summarize, in point 1 he says – no I don’t believe in harming anyone.

        In point 2 he says this is not applicable in certain situations (really?? Where did you get that from?? And even if allegedly the Ahmadis are hypocrites then its ok for non Muslims Ahmadis to be hypocrites too – so two wrongs make a right??? What twisted logic)

        And in point 3 he contradicts his point 1 and says it is completely acceptable to HARM not only Qadianis (Ahmadis) but anyone who is a NON MUSLIM.

        Nice going Mad Mulla…now do you see why I call you mad mulla? It is because you are an embarrassment to the Ummah. You have just openly and blatantly backed all the terrorists out there who have and are planning and plotting to kill innocent civilians because they think like you!!! “THEY AINT MUSLIMS SO IT IS OK TO HURT THEM”

        This is what happens when you leave Ahmadiyyat. You are slowly but surely radicalised into believing something which is completely AGAINST THE PEACEFUL TEACHINGS OF HOLY QURAN.

        Ahmadiyyat Zinda Abad

        Shahabe Saqib

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        1. @ SS you need your head tested, it seems you've got a phd in twisting words and manipulating them. Go and get some help you are actually mentally sick.

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      77. Bad news week for Ahmadiyya lol. First we got the accusations against Ahmadiyya in Sierra Leone about child molesting and pedophilia:

        http://www.sierraleonedailymail.com/archives/4467

        Then findings exposes a naib ameer and his wife as two corrupt liars. And now we've got this qadiani family trying to force their daughter to marry her cousin. But she wants to live with the her boyfriend in a haram relationship.

        Wow just wow. What a joke Ahmadiyya is hahaha.

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        1. Yes let's blame the whole jamaat for these minor cases. Using your logic where do we begin with non Ahmadi headlines? Nobody is perfect and nobody claims to be. Yawn.

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        2. Child molesting and pedophilia a minor case? Forced marriage a minor case? Being convicted of perjury a minor case? I think not!

          Of course not everyone is perfect, but aren't you the reformed people? looool.

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        3. @Feb 2, 2012 06:35 AM

          It is your jamaat that claims to be Allah's jamaat, if that was the case such matters would most certainly would not of occurred.

          Fraud, perjury,Child molesting, pedophilia, spying and theft are not minor cases.

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      78. Let's see what happens with Huhne tomorrow as CPS make an announcement at 10am. Like
        Findings said, his wife accepted speeding penalty on his behalf and now he is under investigation and if prosecuted he will resign as MP so why is Nas still got his position in the jamaat?

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        1. because he's not an MP

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        2. He's more important than an MP he's part of Allah's 'Divine Jamaat' third in command after your "Khalifa".

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      79. NO ACTION taken by Khalifa proves

        That telling lies is acceptable, perjury is acceptable by Ahmadis
        That Rafiq Hayat is happy to entrust millions of pounds into the hands of this liar
        That Nasser Khan probably lies to his beloved Huzoor

        WHY should Nasser Khan step down
        when Rafiq Hayat is prepared to cover for this guy and the Khalifa accepts such behaviour.

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      80. Forgot the ordinary Ahmadis; the fact this is going on at an official level so very close to the Khalifa says it all...

        Its over Jamaat e Ahmadiyya... the mask is off!

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